Patek Philippe

... I believe one of the crown jewels is about to stumble. My two euro. - Scott ...  

Anyway, I don’t believe that their latest creation is a failure or success. Markets speak. Buyers vote with their dollars. As I have stated before, “Time will tell…” Patek continues to be a halo product that people aspire to own. They have a wide and deep... 

... I wasn't making a blanket prediction about ALL the offerings from this storied brand. I do believe the new offering will not do well.

I ask because…. There is more room for PP to add to and expand the collection. Potentially driving a noticeable contribution to total total sales

... Will slump. I recently read an article that highlighted T. Stern's view of the new design and was surprised at how arrogant he comes off.

IMO, T Stern's remarks may have been a bit lost in translation, or he may have misspoken in some capacity. He sounds confident in this new model sitting alongside all their other great collections. Never the less. I think we can all agree its too early to... 

was initially very unpopular. Today it is coveted. Patek, and other makers like Rolex with the Daytona which was also initially very unpopular, seem to make silk purses from sows ears.

... The truth is, even if you dress a monkey up in silk, it's still a monkey.

EVERY watchmaker has tripped up from time to time or issued a dud release, but what you’re insinuating seems far from the truth. Let’s check back in a decade and see where things are at.

... Hubris.

... Well played.

Have you actually tried one on your wrist ?

... Has anyone?

I feel it’s the best way to give an objective opinion about a watch.

... For other discussions regarding the Cubitus.

And it's a pretty-good watch. Especially on a big arm (on a chunky guy, the cubitus is not unisex), the cubitus could well look better / more suitable than a Nautilus. ...  

Good to see one on your wrist.

... Perfect context. It does look good, I admit. But the two-tone? No.

Quite wonderful. And I happen to like two-tone whether on a Daytona, Breguet tourbillon, or a Nautilus chrono. Give it an extended try, you might like two-tone too! Chk

Not interested at all, heavy (platinum), but I took picture of this one 😃 pic from the web ...  

... On how I feel about nepotism. If T. Stern(us) actually demonstrated true watchmaker skills, then my opinion would shift.

... I cannot lose the courage of my convictions.

... Such a passionate conversation. Hope to see you soon, mon ami. - Scott

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... And waiting 20-plus years for an even more square nautilus certainly shows off the creativity.

The recent bubble has been glorious at giving earned exposure to many great watchmakers.

... May all the indies prosper.

Imho there are far more choices today than was available back in the 1960s... or 2000s as best i can recall. Seems to me the today's hard-core enthusiasts have an abundance of choices (dependent on your patience). Torsti Laine offers many customization ch... 

... Armin Strom, Ferrier, and the like. There are so many doing very solid work. Of course, we all love Voutilainen - what's not to love. Same with all the big time living masters, like Roger Smith or Philippe Dufour. I remember seeing Ferdinand Berthoud ... 

share your reasons behind the thoughts. If you get a chance to see it in the metal, it will be interesting to see if you prefer more or less afterwards.

... To a new line of watches that took close to 25 years to release. And it's not so different from what came before. In fact, I think it's nothing short of an ego project.

corporate arrogance is something I can’t stand. The Cubitus will sell well. So too will the next unimaginative, poorly executed model. But how long before PP becomes the exclusive purview of wannabes and speculators, with all people of taste deserting the... 

... Truth to Power. You are spot on! Your statement is 100% correct. Except I do not believe the Cubitush will sell well at all. In fact, I think it comes back to bite the young one very hard. Not that he cares.

Many people didn't like code 11 when it launched but some models like the aventurine perpetual calendar are real stand outs in the line and I think perception of the line has improved drastically since first launch. Others like GF make stunning watches, t... 

... But I don't think I have seen any GF's on the secondary market going for anything less than full retail. Am I wrong?

... But how about any of the multi-tourbillons or GMT's? I am not seeing it.

This is simply one man’s opinion and hope I don’t offend anyone’s sensibility with my comments. While this watch is not my cup of tea, I can’t help but think of my own watch journey and the opinions I held. Sometime during the the late 70’s , I i became a... 

... The Royal Oak does have a certain arc to its iconic history. As does the Nautilus. For perspective, most (non-pursist) people do not know the amazing history and provenance shared by legendary Swiss manufactures, such as Audemars, Vacheron and Patek. ... 

... But we could all agree that the Royal Oak and the Nautilus are both very special and iconic designs that pretty much define the brands who make them.

.... in the 70's. The mad cult status it enjoys now has been carefully created and fostered over the last 35 years. And like a previous point I made about AP's spotlight being brighter because of the likes of LeBron or Arnold, so too does Rolex share its ... 

A couple of hiccups here and there will not kill it. As to whether the cubitus is a success, it is definitely a mixed bag based on reviews but I guess it will sell. I know 3 chaps who will be getting their hands on one. To them, very simply it is a Patek ... 

... Going up to ninety-thousand. I'm not seeing it. But hey, that's just me.

... Alone in my assessment of the Cubitus. Check out Allen Farmelo's Robb Report article... robbreport.com

So the watch is likely to do fine.