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I would not compare

 

Hi,

I understand Patek Philippe's current position towards the Geneva seal. If they think the Seal is not stringent enough for today's market and for their watches, they are right to go beyond and definitely entitled to do so.

Still I honestly don't think a current PP calibre is in any way better finished than a current Geneva sealed Vacheron Constantin calibre. Patek Phillipe is not alone above everybody else.

The Patek Philippe strength so far was that their whole range of watches was Geneva sealed. Now they probably feel it is not enough because some brands get one calibre on one specific watch sealed and then communicate on this, associating themselves with the positive image of the Geneva Seal, creating possibly the feeling that they are on par with the Patek Philippe finish, what can be true for the specific watch sealed, but is far from true on the vast majority of their range!

I would take (I've seen nothing official so far as I've received no press kit from Patek Philippe yet) a Patek Philippe Seal as a commitment to the customer, more than as a reference seal like the Geneva Seal is. I see a seal as a recognition from a referee, that's IMO the limit of  a Patek Philippe Seal. Again I have no idea of what this seal will be.

We will certainly know more next week!

Cheers

Dje




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By: patrick_y : March 20th, 2009-00:58
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By: patrick_y : March 20th, 2009-01:07
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By: mac_omega : March 20th, 2009-01:10
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By: Bruno.M1 : March 20th, 2009-02:02
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By: Topcat30093 : March 20th, 2009-02:24
If Patek did move away from the Geneva Seal. In my mind, their watches far outstrip other brands that also has this seal. If this new seal means that their watches would have to meet a more stringent criteria, then that is fine with me.

Geneva seal or no Geneva seal..

 
By: sadris : March 20th, 2009-03:49
Patek Philippe are still the pinnacle of watch manufacture in my eyes...

I would not compare

 
By: Dje : March 20th, 2009-04:50
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"Badges ???? We don't need no stinkin' badges"

 
By: WatchFan1 : March 22nd, 2009-20:23
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