expectations

we all have different expectations to mostly everything in life. In this day where most desires are expected to be fulfilled immediately I can certainly see how some find this years novelties less groundbreaking and disappointing. Personally I was slightly disappointed as well. But only because some of the items I personally had hoped for did not materialize. But that was perhaps to be expected. I was not disappointed at the quality and level of the releases however. Patek has been around for a long time, during this period many things have happened and stayed in fashion for various periods. The course taken by Patek has been and still is on the conservative side. I think it is unreasonable to expect groundbreaking new releases every year, this is not what I believe their objective is. Last year we got an updated Advanced Research Aquanaut. This year we got a world time minute repeater (yes a few lucky Americans got some last year). These are pretty amazing novelties. With regards to cal 315 and 240, yes they have been around for quite some time but still do a great job. Over the years they have been improved upon as well. Perhaps I would wish for a replacement to cal 215 one day very soon. And back to my hope for this year that was not materialized... a Calatrava in steel with no date and a newly developed manual movement....

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I confess myself...disappointed

By: Codes : March 25th, 2018-09:16

I’m a bit disappointed by Patek’s Basel releases. They updated their sports and grand complications lines, but did nothing for people looking for innovation outside those lines. As popular as the sports lines are, I don’t think it truly reflects what Pate...

Agree...

By: vitalsigns : March 25th, 2018-09:51

Patek will not innovate because Patek does not have to innovate (except at the grand comp level and a few other unattainable (for me) releases). Their position in the market is IMO irrationally strong. This leads to a different set of business decisions t...

Agree with your statement

By: Alkiro1 : March 25th, 2018-10:31

There’s a true Patek cult (same for Rolex) and they have orders for years so they don’t need to deeply modify their strategy and supply. Evolution rather than revolution. Best wishes Alkiro

"Evolution rather than revolution"...good way to say it... [nt]

By: vitalsigns : March 25th, 2018-11:28

Thanks John

By: Alkiro1 : March 25th, 2018-11:30

Best wishes Alkiro

Patek plays a different game in a different field.

By: piccolochimico (aka dsgalaxy1) : March 25th, 2018-11:10

No matter how disappointing some watches might look; surprisingly, every new watch is a success, according to their audience. Prices are simply following their motto (or commercial), just buy now something that will be given to the next generations. The h...

I have to agree...

By: Langeholic : March 25th, 2018-13:16

although Patek have not really innovated for years, if not decades. I guess a brand that has something to prove pushes the boundaries of innovation, but Patek’s following is so strong that if a new metal or dial colour is released, it’s big news! I hope P...

Yes ALS is a good example for what Patek should be doing

By: Codes : March 25th, 2018-17:50

Seems like ALS has updated the movements in their lower end pieces. Features like hacking seconds, second reset to zero, etc. ALS is driving for more while Patek seems content to mostly rest on their laurels.

Spot on!

By: Langeholic : March 25th, 2018-19:14

One can’t help but admire a brand that takes so much care and thought updating minor details to perfect their product. That strive for excellence and compulsive approach is lacking in Patek, even at times in their “Grand Complication” models. I for one lo...

As of 2017 there were 43 references using the 240 mvmt.

By: Costa (aka Connie) : March 25th, 2018-13:42

Patek is fitting this movement into many cases including the 44mm 6102P celestial. To me this shows a degree of laziness. I know it is a great reliable movement. However if you do not innovate you stagnate and the next great movement will never be invente...

Wondering how long has the 240 base movement been in use...

By: Greenwatch : March 25th, 2018-20:15

For one, if it is about recovering R&D costs, I think Patek like any other businesses will pursue that action and I am still ok with that, but it should not continue forever. They have to innovate (which they have done with the Regulator) and consider the...

Caliber 240 was first used in 1977 in the Golden Ellipse ref 3738.

By: Costa (aka Connie) : March 25th, 2018-21:24

The movement was developed in the Quartz revolution of the 1970’s to compete with quartz watches. Patek was striving to make a mechanical watch as reliable and accurate as a quartz watch. Ref 3970 houses the 240 movement and was the watch that saved Patek...

I think their current lineup is stronger than ever.

I second that! [nt]

By: Thomahof : March 25th, 2018-16:29

I agree with you...

By: jonrus : March 25th, 2018-16:13

My AD carries PP, Rolex and Tudor. I called and discussed about Rolex and Tudor. The AD manager didn’t have much to say about PP as well.

In Patek's defence,

By: sham1 : March 25th, 2018-20:29

I would just like to say that Patek do innovate but they do things slowly and thoroughly. The 5650 Advanced Research Nautilus was produced last year with an accuracy of +1 -2 seconds. Few mechanical watches can boast of such accuracy but it may take a whi...