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But.....
Surely Fricks' reply is only a part of the story. VC makes chronos easily as fine--commanding not nearly the price--forget LIST price--what do VC's really sell for new and used.
Patek is a cherished illusion, a dream, and for a few, a reality that delivers and is worth it.
MY experience is that Patek is an illusion, but I still have a lot of interest in the brand, because of the Power and Aura of the illusion/dream that they sell so successfully. And I am attracted to the occasional new model, but I can't really imagine ever paying for a Patek again--too many disappointments on all levels. To me, it is more than 'my taste'. the watches, IMHO, are overrated and overpriced, but! So what. Who cares what I think. Patek is Patek. I post these type of replies for the Beginner--just to provide balance/contrast in a deluge of slavish, sycophantic praise.
Why are Patek Chronographs so expensive?
Hello, I am a Patek Lover and fan..... I want to ask why Patek Chronographs are so expensive. What I mean is that - the chronographs were usually just Lemania based Chronographs. The Annual Calendar is a unique piece to Patek - invented by Patek itself. W...
Yes
I have wondered this too. The Daytona (also a chrono) carries a high price point in the Rolex range. People love chronos and the market seems to reflect the demand for them. The 5035 seems particularly under-valued, especially when measured against the mo...
Once upon a time...
Patek Philippe was the best made and best designed watch money could buy, and The Most Expensive. That was true, without argument by most, for many decades. The legend of the name became synonymous with The Best and Best Design, most Classic, Finest, and ...
First of all, which chronograph are you talking about?
There are quite a few: PP 130, 530, 533 ... 1579 ... 5070 ... 5960 ... 5950 ... 5980 ... Why so expensive? Different answers, depending on the watch - rarity, beauty, reliability, le confort, ... - a well balanced mix out of those. To understand the compl...
Hi Oliver , I do agree , but ...
"There are quite a few: PP 130, 530, 533 ... 1579 ... 5070 ... 5960 ... 5950 ... 5980 ..." 5170 coming soon ??? LOL ! Best regards . Guy
Because there are Chrono's and there are chrono's
By the way, they are not that expensive. If we take the 5070 you are talking about 2nd market high price due to the fact that its in very demand. The 5170 is IMO one of the finest chrono. You want an answer? The only way is to toy around with it. Check ho...
but if you compare a Breguet Type XX to a Patek....
The Breguet surely must be great bang per buck? Breguet - a brand superior to Patek...... with such legandary customers like Sir Winston Churchill, Arthur Rubinstein, Napolean....... Surely a Breguet Chronograph with flyback feature is better than a stock...
really?
Breguet made by Swatch with a Lemania movement is superior to Patek? This is new Breguet and not the old Breguet that Napoleon used to own.
sarcasm?
You know all Patek chronos until recently have Valjoux or Lemania movements, right?
New generation are all in house
I've got a feeling this new generation of in-house PP chronos will become legendary. Precisely because they're a return to inhouse.
partially true
true to some part, indeed. However, PP, unlike Breguet has not gone through bankruptcy and has been continuously making watches. Also, PP Lemania movements are seriously re-worked while Breguet Lemania movement is identical to Lemania movement used in a b...
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I do not understand your arguments. Lange has not been continuously making watches either - does that mean Langes are no good? Breguet currently makes fine watches, notwithstanding any prior history, who their owners are, or any other irrelevant factors. ...
sadly true..
the present Brequet is is not the glorified company of Abraham Brequet that catered to royalty and leaders of business.
Looks like you have a Breguet XX
and that you have adapted very well the advertising material of Breguet... Anyhow, it is very difficult to state objectively "this is better than that". Best, Kari
Maybe it was not clear enough in my replies before.
If YOU don´t see the differences, please don´t bore others with your mantras. It seems you don´t want to learn anything from others and you are not open for discussions. Please make your homework and come back when you are ready for serious discussions. O...
But.....
Surely Fricks' reply is only a part of the story. VC makes chronos easily as fine--commanding not nearly the price--forget LIST price--what do VC's really sell for new and used. Patek is a cherished illusion, a dream, and for a few, a reality that deliver...
just curious
I am just curious why are you disappointed with Patek? A Patek AC is about the same price as an AP Annual Calendar or VC Annual Calendar watch. So, why not choose the Patek. They are crazily expensive but so are these other brands, including Breguet.
Patek is independent, innnovative and most of all: incomparable!
But surely not inexpensive and that for a very good reason: to develop a movement costs time and a lot of money. The reason why a Patek chrono is so costly is simple: they issued with the 5070 for the first time since 60 years a chrono again. That was qui...
Oh my god, ArchieLuxury has bypassed the forum....
Incase people didn't already figure it out! XXX (No reason to feature it! Oliver) This guy in an absolute clown!
patek prices
patek has started to lose sight of the reality on the ground and what their timepieces should cost - regardless of the class of maufacture and quality of the workmanship, today i see many patek's offered at discounts and there are still no takers....i thi...