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A KIND OF INSTRUCTIONS
Eiter I have to blame our Moderator small-luxury-world a.k.a. Oliver. He wrote a very good post "Patek Philippe Ref. 5170 - The genesis of a new classic". Thanks to Oliver's post I started to look at 5170J with new eyes and open mind. So now I have a new watch (again) and I must admit that Oliver's post was really the kick I needed to study 5170J closer.
A short time ago "charliewatch" sent tow posts: "the best patek" and "what about this one". From these two posts I understood that some of us like to admire their watches in ugly boxes through fuzzy plastic.
However, there is an alternative way and I will show now how it works!
The unopened Patek box is not very inspiring. Or do you get vibrations from this kind of box?
Some people might cry now: the watch is not anymore Double Sealed... However, even opened a bit, the watch does not look much better.
To keep the watch only in plastic bag is also out of question; even it's single sealed now. It is difficult to set the watch, give power and use the chronograph...
Naturally the clasp looks nice and like a virgin:
It is quite difficult to admire the beauty of the dial through plastic.
Ref. 5170 contains a fantastic movement. It's worth of admiring and showing to others but not through plastic!
The watch clearly requires to be opened but what about this? I guess it's a matter of taste.
Now I have to choose a knife for opening the plastic bag. This one is at least unique with some Ice Aged mammoth bone in the handle:
The blade also seems to be razor-sharp.
No! This knife is not the right one. It is clearly for a Grand Complication. The watch I have to open is just a basic chronograph costing only a little bit more than a brand new Porsche Cayenne here where I live...
So a normal knife for this kind of watch must be enough!
HERE START THE INSTRUCTIONS:
Choose a knife to open the watch bag. For a small complication a normal knife is good enough.
Cut from i.e. the side of the plastic bag.
When the bag is opened, take the watch out from the bag.
The first real touch of your watch. The relationship starts from here.
It is time to make the watch alive! Some winding is needed and after that there is 65 hours power reserve.
The feeling is incredible - I would say unreal! Winding is so smooth and because it is not possible to describe it, one must try it to believe.
Even the crown looks and feels totally right.
Now when the watch is alive, it is time to admire the movement.
It's time to check the time and adjust the watch. Taking into account that the watch is a Patek Philippe, this step is easier than normally because of the hacking movement.
The watch seems to be pretty well on time...
Still some protective stickers to be removed...
After the shop a Patek Philippe wristwatch should not be kept Single nor Double Sealed.
The right place for the watch is: THE OWNER'S WRIST!
Best, Kari
A KIND OF INSTRUCTIONS
Eiter I have to blame our Moderator small-luxury-world a.k.a. Oliver. He wrote a very good post "Patek Philippe Ref. 5170 - The genesis of a new classic". Thanks to Oliver's post I started to look at 5170J with new eyes and open mind. So now I have a new ...
Exactly!
And, to be sure, some may need to have this post translated in local language ;) Thanks for this unusual 5170 stripping, as always I don't see the point when someone just posts a picture of an ugly box (even with a Patek inside). This is clearly a watch o...
Thank you Mark!
Yellow gold is not my #1 choice but this watch is so incredibly classic that YG fits well to that. However, if the coming WG looks much better, I can always trade to that or to do like a top executive of Patek advised me in a cocktail party: "Collect 5170...
True but ...
... what if they change the scale into a Tachy. or Telemeter one ? I heard the Puslometer scale could be reserved to YG (maybe internet rumors...). As you said, this YG color is also something that fits very well to the 5170's spirit.
Then I have to start saving money
for the next one. My dream is to see a 5170P with a blue dial and at some stage 5170A. Best, Kari
Thank you for sharing this heady experience with us!
And congrats on your new watch. A sealed watch is just a sealed watch. Ownership does not crystalize until it is on your wrist. Enjoy your 5170 in good health!
Thank you Wilson
Yes, this sealed / double sealed Patek issue is something I really do not understand. I am 100% sure there are better ways to invest money than to sealed watches. At the same time a great watch is much nicer on the wrist than a bunch of blue chip stock. B...
Best Patek...no doubt :)
One of my favorites from current lineage. Marvelous choice on both counts ;) Best D
Thanks!
In my opinion 5170 is full of hidden charm and some time is needed to appreciate the watch in full. Best, Kari
Kari, you made my day!
I love your kind of humour and of course the watch. One more great piece in your already marvelous collection. Congrats! By the way, next beer goes on me :-) Oliver
Be careful Oliver with your beer.
I just came from my wife last night from a weekend trip to Istanbul. My kids were claiming that we travel too much and they stay alone "all the time". Anyhow, I promised to take all the kids for a shopping trip to Germany sometimes during the spring when ...
No reason to be careful ...
if this one is big enough for you: No this is not a Masskrug, this one is for 5 liter :-) Looks like Munich, but you should come to Berlin ... or Basel ... pm sent Oliver ...
That one I have tried in the original environment
I had just two mugs just before Xmas many years ago. Next day I was supposed to drive to Zell am See but I had to stay the whole day in the bottom of my bed waiting for death. This kind of experience helped me to shift to non-alcoholic beer. Best, Kari
I feel Kari's wrist shot deserves . . .
. . . a stint at the Masthead, Oliver. What a magnificent debut he's prepared for us!
Wonderful post, Kari!
I love your statement: The first real touch of your watch. The relationship starts from here. So true! :) Congrats and wear it in good health! Best Blomman
Absolutely lovely - congratulations!
I've seen the 5170 in person and put it on my wrist as well. It is quite a piece!
Can a chrono be more classic than this one?
You are clearly becoming a serious collector :-). That is a very, very fine chrono. Although I am not really a chrono person: this one tickles my senses a lot! Moritz
Let me make it clear:
I am not a collector! I happen to like Patek Philippe a lot. And I am buying a small amount of watches that fill my needs. What can I do if I need a dress watch, sporting watch, travel watch, time zone watch, tuxedo watch, chronograph, swimming watch (als...
Kari, you are not the kind of guy to put a plastic bag on your wife's face
During the wedding day... And you are not the kind of collector to keep a watxh under the plastic seal... Bravo. And enjoy your new Patek! Best, Nicolas
Thanks Nico. Even I don't know if
you want to be polite or nasty. Anyhow, I am not a collector. Just a modest user... Best, Kari
Not polite nor nasty, for once. :)
I just love to see someone sharing his joy anf happiness when he gets a new watch. Even more when this someone is a friend. Best, Nicolas
Thank you Nicolas!
We are coming with Darja for the first time to Baselworld. Hope to see you there and have a cup of something together. Best, Kari
Tried this one recently. Definitely has PP DNA all over it.
Great pick up. Thanks for sharing your experience wit us all. Julian
I agree:
Covered with Patek DNA. That is a very good reason to acquire the watch. Especially for a conservative like I am. Best, Kari
Beautiful watch and its funny I was reading that post...
...last night the photo's are excellent did you have to wait long for your watch?
bit old fashioned?
Maybe Kari , but i'd prefer say classic and timeless style , I would add it is the chronograph i prefer so much , but you know what : i am a little biased Have you noticed the yellow gold case is very close to some pale rose gold ? Many congrats and wear ...
Thanks Guy
Indeed, the color of the case in my eyes is a little bit different than yellow gold is normally. I will pick up from the bank vault my 5120/1 and a Golden Ellipse to see if there's a difference. Best, Kari
Possible
Hi Kari, I generally dislike yellow gold, but liked this one a lot! I didn't find it as bright yellow as yellow gold generally is. Maybe it's due to the detailing of the case too? Best Dje
retire this reference
I suspect they retire this reference this year at Basel and and bring out a new model in white gold with a different type scale. I own and love the 5170J but it may take several years before the larger PP community warms up to this reference based upon sa...
congratulations! Nice post...
... keeps our breath away until the next pics :) Great choice, very nice watch, how about the feel of the triggering of the chrono and especially the reset? Sweet as honey? Wear it in good health. Looks great on your wrist!
Thanks Fricks
One should write a poem about operating the chronograph. The feeling is incredible and pressing the resetting button of the chronograph hand feels like putting the finger to warm... I'm not a poet! Best, Kari
its poetry...
... the vintage feel of that watch is amazing. Best of both worlds. This watch is "so Patek" is every way. Now we'll be waiting for more nice good outdoors shots!
Will this do?
I do not know how good the shot is, but it's outdoor. I do not have many shots yet because the watch has been free from plastic for only some 8 hours. Best, Kari ...
Nice...
... 8h only! Thanks for sharing so soon! Ok, now get ready to welcome the Wg version soon :)
Let's see if they will pull off the YG
when the WG comes. For the ladies they have a WG version with blue dial. In case the same happens with gents version, I will start saving. I stopped smoking on 30th January. By now I have saved some € 268.80. I used to smoke two packs a day and there a pa...
keep smoking and boozing...
... if everything goes as it should, after 29 yrs of saving, the price will be such that you might need another 29 yrs... Unless you are a highlander, better keeping on enjoying a smoke and a drink :)
Sorry Fricks but you are wrong!
And clearly you do not either smoke nor booze. We often hear complaints about rising watch prices. But what about the rising prices of cigarettes and booze. When I started smoking 41 years ago, a pack of my favorite brand of cigarettes costed about 4% of ...
actually....
... i smoke a lot and drink a little, but i never kept count. Anyway, doesn't matter, my guess is that 5170G will be stunning. Let's remind each other in April ;)
I am afraid 5170G will be great.
If it is great and very different compared with 5170J, I have to start to save money. If it is just great but very similar to 5170J, I have two alternatives: - to be happy with my 5170J - sell my watch, add a bit cash and get 5170G I love most of my watch...
You chose the wrong knife
The mammoth one would have been perfect. One of the most beautiful pocket knives I've ever seen. Cannot help but marvel the artwork on the blade. Amazing. I must say you took a misstep here. Best, Your nephew PS. I tried to browse through a dictionary to ...
Thanks,
it seems to go in the family. You are growing towards being a wiseass! Best, uncle
Such a refreshing post
Seeing a watch in a plasstic bag makes me think that it will suffocate ^^ So much better breathing the fresh air. What a fantastic caliber. Enjoy your marvel. Francois
I will.
I also ordered some made-to-measure straps from Patek in order to wear the watch in the most comfortable way. After one year of wearing, the watch will have the needed scratches and the strap will be nice and soft. Best, Kari
Huge congrats Kari!
A beautiful watch obviously... a classic and timeless style... the watch is perfect on your wrist. And also thanks for the message behind the post... Fx
Thanks Foversta,
I did not try to hide the message. And when my 5131G arrives, it will fly out from the packing directly to my wrist. Then it will stay on the wrist for quite some time. My 5170J is now having that destiny. I hope that as many collectors as possible would ...
I think everybody buying a watch should
de-pack it. If somebody would buy very nice sporting cars and store those in a dark garage under factory's protective wax, he would be considered insane. Right? The fun of owning a sporting car is to drive it. The fun of owning a nice watch is to wear it!...
I disagree with you Kari...!!
Everything you mentioned is right, but a Toyota Altis 1600cc costs more than your watch and porch, from where I'm based. I 'hate' your country but love your Patek...!!! :) The sad truth is all Pateks cost the same worldwide, that's discrimination! Big con...
Sounds like Singapore...
You guys do not understand how very lucky you are. Life is so incredible easy there... - dream about a 1600 cc Toyota and buy a Patek 5170 - dream about Porsche 911 and buy a Patek 5078P - and then ride the bus! In Tallinn where I live at the moment, all ...
Our government is trying super hard to
tax the rich here, and you guys get to ride the bus free? :) Mech.
The roads here are actually
just potato fields. I live in Estonia but (luckily) am not Estonian. In Tallinn, the capital of the country, the public transportation is free. The schools are free. The health care is free. The VAT is low and corporate tax zero. Income tax and dividend t...
Thanks Kari for the insight, it's absolutely
puzzling from an economist's point of view how things can work that great. We should learn from you! Freedom to the people, Pateks to the mass! Mech.
I'm a Finn and Finland is a great & safe
country to live. But I'm living in lousy Estonia. Guess why... Taxes perhaps? Best, Kari
Kari, incidentally, we had a bizzare car related
news from yesterday's announcement. It's official a Toyota Altis costs more than a Porche 911 in excess of approximately $25k, we are a 'fun' country where Toyota driver despise Porche owners from now on, Mech.
I'm learning every day.
I did not know that your country is also called "Fun" country. I always thought it's a "Fine" country. Best, Kari
So awesome Kari!
Thanks for such a great intro to your 5170! I was on the edge of my seat every picture.. Enjoy her to the fullest!
Nice that you enjoyed.
Now we all are excited to see how 5170G looks like. Best, Kari
It's a beautiful watch from Patek
That I also have been interested lately and maybe my first chrono watch to complement my AC, Travel Time and Nautilus 5711. Thanks for sharing and I hope Patek will come up with a G variant this year as rumored.
It's not a rumor
If you have been following Patek Forum you perhaps noticed that by accident Patek had the instructions for their 5170G in their home pages. However, it was quickly noticed by them and removed from internet. We will see the new 5170G soon. I hope it's stun...
In a way I agree.
It is funny how much we pay attention to the color of the case while from inside watches are just the same. I am not crazy about yellow gold nowadays. However, there are a couple of Pateks I can easily consider in YG. Those are the classic ones like 5196,...
Congratulations Kari..............
The 5170J is an instant classic, purely, imo by the design of the dial, which it has "Borrowed" from its grandparents. :) I have to admitted to humming the "Striptease" music while I watched the unpacking of your new piece LOL I am sure that you were thin...
Having wife next to me no such thing came
into mind as we have been married soon for 2 years. I think it's just great that a company takes inspiration from its own past. There are also examples of brands who take their inspiration from classics of others. Those are two very different things... Be...
5170 excellent pick
A very nice classical chronograph. The watch doesn't look very attractive in many pictures I have seen, but it becomes so attractive when you have it on your wrist. I am not a colored gold fan, but yellow gold works perfect with this specific reference. H...
Thank you a lot...
Winding it or operating the chronograph takes me to heaven. Best, Kari
Winding experience
Yes, the feeling of winding is perfect. Even I like the winding feeling of 5070 and Datograph, this 5170 over-performs both. I tried it in the Paris Salons, I totally understand your feeling :-) Will be in Basel next month and can't wait to see the new wh...
I am different...
I'll visit Patek boot on Saturday 27th in Basel and I am afraid to see the WG model. Best, Kari