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That is a hot looking bike! [nt]

 
 By: patrick_y : April 25th, 2013-12:45
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This is the new hobby!

 
 By: patrick_y : April 25th, 2013-11:59
A lot of cyclers out there now.  

I didn't know bikes had electronic paddle shifters?  

Relatively new

 
 By: sancerre : April 25th, 2013-12:24
Both Campagnolo and Shimano have electronic shifting. I probably should have put Shimano first, since they were to first to come out with electronic shifting. 

--Sancerre

Thanks! I didn't know that!

 
 By: patrick_y : April 25th, 2013-12:26
I wonder what the advantage is...  Speed?  

Not weight

 
 By: sancerre : April 25th, 2013-12:31
Believe it or not, the advantage is not weight, and certainly not cost. 

However, the precision and capability to stay in adjustment are much better. For example, the front derailleur automatically adjusts based upon the chain location on the rear derailleur. This prevents the chain from rubbing against the metal housing of the front derailleur. On my (mechanical) derailleur, I have to do this manually, but there are only two possible positions per chain ring.

Oh wait, it is really cool, does that count as an advantage?

--Sancerre

Thank you again...

 
 By: patrick_y : April 25th, 2013-12:43
Thank you again for the education and your explanation.  This is much appreciated.  I've been out of cycling for years (and I used to cycle with mountain bikes, not road bikes).  

Yes, being totally cool does count as an advantage!  

Biking has been my main hobby for years ...

 
 By: bimbeano : April 25th, 2013-14:44
... untill i got to ride my Suzuki bike at the age of 17 ... smile
Nonetheless i picked up a couple of years ago ... as i was given my fathers bike (who got it from his brother) ... must be over 30 years old smile ... .




To me a bike is not about how expensive or hightch it is .. more about how cool it can be smile

Cool Bim

agreed

 
 By: sancerre : April 25th, 2013-16:50
that is a cool bike, and all kinds of bikes can be really great - commuter bikes can take on a life of their own, kind of how at some point an old car becomes collectible.

--Sancerre

Your father...

 
 By: pplater : April 25th, 2013-21:26
...was one tall hombre!

Cheers,
pplater.

But not ...

 
 By: bimbeano : April 25th, 2013-23:37
.. as tall as i am smile


I've always wondered about the brakes

 
 By: ED209 : April 25th, 2013-17:24
Cool bike cazalea. I'm more of a mountain biker (riding a Cannondale Scalpel) and I've always wondered why road bikes don't take advantage of disk brakes instead of rim brakes.  I know it weights more but if you're going to add electronics for shifting and all the carbon stuff, might as go big and all out with the hydraulic disc brakes.

Regards,
ED-209

Not worth the trouble

 
 By: cazalea : April 25th, 2013-21:45
In my opinion, hydraulics aren't worth the effort on a bicycle. Cables are readily available, light, easily routed, etc. The advantages of hydraulic or cable-operated discs are exploited best on off-road bikes (muddy rims) and tandems (overheated rims).

I do have a disc brake on my tandem. And many off-road bikes have discs. But there are issues with discs too, as there are with rim brakes.

Cheers

Cazalea
This message has been edited by cazalea on 2013-04-25 21:51:13

SOTC or State of the Collection

 
 By: cazalea : April 25th, 2013-21:46

Here is my current fleet of classic bikes:

Schwinn Paramount Criterium Bike Factory Chrome from 1972





Platano Touring Bike (custom made circa 1975)




Cycles California Tandem (custom made circa 1978)




Raleigh Professional (early Seventies) Mrs Cazalea's bike (repainted)






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That first bike ...

 
 By: bimbeano : April 25th, 2013-23:39
.. must be the coolest i have ever seen smile
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Thanks. I've had it since 1973

 
 By: cazalea : April 27th, 2013-05:22
It cost me $425 back then, which was like buying a Roger Smith watch.

This is the earliest photo I have found in my box of unlabeled, unmounted photos. I was riding in a time trial





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More of Bill Holland's Bike

 
 By: cazalea : April 25th, 2013-21:49
Macro shots to display the workmanship . Note that this bike is ridden all the time, and was not cleaned up for the photos.





























Cazalea
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greats shots

 
 By: sancerre : April 26th, 2013-07:31
Thanks for the extra details, that is a great bike.

--Sancerre
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very nice. how is the power shift powered ?

 
 By: G99 : April 26th, 2013-13:30

is it a rechargable pack, batteries or regenerative from the brakes?

i have a pretty modern commuting bike with Sturmey Archer 3 speed system like the old bikes.
biking is very popular where i live as its very flat. all the main roads have cycle lanes and you see a lot of different bikes from battery assisted commuters through european style ladies bikes, single speeders like you see in US beach films to hi tech race bikes.

i chose a bike with the sturmey archer system as it requires far less maintaining than derailliers. you dont get that annoying grating if the cable is 1mm out.

power shift is really interesting. less effort for my right fore finger smile

G
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Battery

 
 By: sancerre : April 26th, 2013-14:44
They use batteries, which I think are recharged with a simple USB cable. The charge lasts months, if I remember correctly.

To be clear however, this is very expensive technology only found on high end road bikes. Having said that, the technology is already starting to trickle down.

--Sancerre
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Cheers, sounds simple. G...

 
 By: G99 : April 26th, 2013-14:45

Cheers, sounds simple.

G

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No more annoying grating

 
 By: cazalea : April 27th, 2013-05:46
It somehow figures it out and moves the front based on where the rear is, keeping the cage clear.
Here are some close-ups

Control box and finger button and lever (for up and down)

Battery (rechargeable) and front shifter (carbon cage)





Rear shifter and cluster




Cazalea
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very clever....

 
 By: G99 : April 27th, 2013-06:17

very clever.

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Big bike for me :-)...

 
 By: mrsnak : April 26th, 2013-17:13
36" wheels. Monster Cruiser. Wine caddy is a critical accessory





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nice, like your hydration approach [nt]

 
 By: sancerre : April 26th, 2013-18:20
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Cool ExoGrid!

 
 By: DRMW : April 27th, 2013-00:14
Congrats on the new frame!  I like how the Holland has the ability to run the lines internally.  Where's your helmet?  Safety first!  smile

-MW
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Safety First is Right

 
 By: cazalea : April 27th, 2013-05:33
I only ride with a helmet. 
And in the last few years, also wearing a bright safety vest or shirt.
Too many texting, talking, impatient drivers in SoCal.
I made this to show some other friends why I bother with the vest.


Animation is courtesy of Picasion (not Picasso).

In the earlier photo I just pedaled 20 feet so my wife could take a photo.

Cazalea

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do you wear gel filled...

 
 By: G99 : April 27th, 2013-05:35

do you wear gel filled shorts or have a gel filled seat?

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