Patek Philippe

We got very close to getting a full report on this watch from a well respected watch collector a few months back but it never happened so I am interested in hearing what you guys think of this watch. Even if you dont own one what do you think of this sometimes poked fun of watch????
I have worn mine now for many months and have very definite views... What are yours I would love to hear them.
Regards
Miles.

but it's not my favorite.

It is a nice watch but I'm not a big fan of the bulls-eye,  I prefer 2 subdials instead of one. And I would love to see the numers and hands of the chrono  in another color (black and beige , NOT red and blue)

So, it's not high on my wishlist but I wouldn't mind owning one

If I had the cash I would go for the Datograph or the PP 5070 over the 5960.

I tried on both watches and confirmed my opinions formed from pictures. I think the "bulls-eye" chrono harmonizes with the 5980 Nautilus case and looks very good. So good, in fact, that I now own one!

I had just the opposite reaction to the 5960. It has a "wacky" look. I know of no better way to describe it.

Regarding the concentric totalizer display, it is very easy to read. I also like the vertical clutch design that allows the constant running of the chronograph for a seconds hand, along with the somewhat random display of the chronograph hands at any given time while running the seconds hand.

That's my opinion!

Yet!!!
IMHO, it is the essence of modern Patek.  Innovative, understated (in plat), and quite practical in terms of complications.  A chronograph that can actually be used in real life!  Most events I want to time don't stop at 30mins. 

originally, I thought it was a supremely ugly watch. So ugly, that Patek's arrogance made me chuckle. Then, various photos made me look at it again, and I almost wanted one. But this was when they were fetching big bucks over list. Even at that peak, I hesitated, wondering if I'd gone insane. Then, when my AD's called me with offers, I looked at it with a serious buyer's eye, and could never get past my original view, that it is just all out of balance, completely illegible as a serious chronograph... and as with all Pateks, undeservedly and spectacularly overpriced (except a Lemania here and there...) Yes, I'm officially off Pateks.....

i've always had a thing for this model . the dial does it for me

The 5960's dial has too many things hapening at once. The glass as with many Pateks is in serious need of A/R coating. The photos you have posted bare this out nicely. There are several chronographs I would prefer over the 5960...Such as the 1815 chronograph, the Patek 5070P, Speedmaster professional, and VC Malte 47120.

Cheers,

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Richard. 

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Official unveiling and review to follow. Very practical complication. Wears better than a 5070 in my view.

Regards

Rene

Hi,

Send me one and I'll do a report! 

This piece is among my top four choices with the 5146G slate dial, the 5098R, the 6000G!

I keep the fifth place for the next manual wind chrono.

Cheers

Dje

I too love the 5146G and the 6000G. Not a lot of people like the 6000G. Kudos Dje!

I was very disturbed by the annual calendar on this Chrono, as I found it breaks a bit the splendid layout of the dial, which has a gorgeous ruthenium color.

Then, now, I could live with this annual calendar, not that I love it, but I can live with.

I like a lot the mono counter at 6.

The size is perfect, and this is the first in house automatic Chrono from PP, which is important for the Hisotry of the brand.

On the wrist, a lot of presence and ...pleasure, due to the use of the platinum for the case.

Well, more pros than cons...

Best,

Nicolas

I also went back and forwards with my decision making.

But now I have come down on the side of like.

The presence on your wrist is nice and very well balanced.

The practicality of the complications is spot on............I much prefer a chronograph to be able to measures hours and not just minutes.

The Annual Calendar is great day to day complication and is so easy to read.

And the movement is ALL in house...............Although saying that the Lemania movement is totally stunning.

My only reservation is the pushers, I much prefer square one's The round one's always look more vulnerable to catching and breaking then the square one's. The aesthetics of the square pushers also imo look a lot better. 

the picture and query a few ADs if I can get one but not until 6 months ago.

it wear nicely on my small wrist, not heavy even it is plat

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I absolutely LOVE it!!!! I did from the first moment I set eyes on it but after owning one and wearing it often I simply love it.....
In fact I would even go as far to say that if it were to house a Minute Repeater I would not need to own another watch....
The movement is very nice but the watch on my wrist just feels and looks perfect... Out of my collection it is the most useful, wearable watch.
Its beefy presence on the wrist is wonderful while the round pushers soften the overall look..
The chronograph in my opinion is very easy to use and I find the fly- back function very useful indeed. For me a watch that is an Annual calender with Am and PM indicator which has a useful 12 hour chronograph and look and feels so darn well balanced is a must for my collection and watch enjoyment.
So you may have guessed by now that the 5960p gets the big thumbs up from me....The only thing I would change however is the hands but that's all...
Thanks gents for all your thoughts and taking the time to share them..
Regards
M.

Sorry.
M.

They both share the same base, the Cal 28 - 520, but one has the Annual Calendar ( 5960 P ) ,while the other has a date.

Best,

Nicolas

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AFAIK, the 5980 and the 5960 have been released the same year: 2006.

Am I wrong?

Best,

Nicolas

Hi,

They were both presented in 2006, but none of them at Basel.

The 5960 in January, and the 5980 at the end of the year of the Nautilus 30th anniversary!

By the way the 2006/2007 catalog shows the 5960 but there is no Nautilus presented at all!

Cheers

Dje

The Release!



Best, my friend.

Nicolas

And such launches out of Basel are not common from PP!

Cheers

Dje

but now not so much, though I certainly don't hate it.

The case and the wrist fit of this watch are spectacular. 

But, even though the chrono mono-counter looks nice, it is very hard to read.  And the chrono pushers are stiff and with unsatisfactory feel to me for a chrono at this level.  I also have to say the annual calendar is OK, but not much special--I would rather have a simple calendar such as the 5980.

Another minor detail I did not like about this watch was the completely smooth, no resistance feel of the crown with manual winding.  May just be me, but I like a little feedback when I am winding my watch, and enjoy this experience.  I suppose I could have simply kept it on a winder, but I have become not much of a fan of winders.

The 5960 was hard to part with, but not one of those watches I miss too much when looking back.  Now if Patek would just put their new manual chrono in this same case...........

that the pusher feel does not have a little more "finesse," similar to my Lange 1815 chrono. However, they do have a certain refined crispness that is appealing and that differs significantly from the harsher feel of a 7750 or similar. After owning the 5980 for a couple of weeks, I have come to appreciate the pusher feel as desirable.

this magnificent piece from PP.

Having said that, for me at least, it falls into the category of "best to use in daily life but doesn't hit my horological buy button". Having been offered and passing up this watch at least 4 times now, I can say at this point that I am over the idea of getting this piece. Why? NO disrespect to the watch per say by foregoing purchase of it but by getting this piece, the utility of the watch compared with the finesse of the PT case powered by the inimitable annual calendar mechanism combined with the 1st in house chronograph of PP will relegate to the drawer at least half of my daily wearers. A decision I am not willing to make at this time.

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