The latest 38 AT would need to shave at least 1-1.5mm to be credible in that segment (it's 12.36mm) and the deployant clasp is a handful, all of this was very obvious. The side by side shot in my earlier post (https://www.watchprosite.com/page-wf.forumpost/fi-677/pi-17139606/ti-1666936/s-0/t--a-few-quick-thoughts-on-the-new-railmaster/) is self explanatory. A real shame as they may be sitting on a decent seller.