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Hi Graham,

I understand your thoughts that you think it is useless to buy a watch with a useless complication.

Just see it this way: There was a (maybe stupid) competition between several brands to create a dead second movement.

If Omega had one in their catalog Rolex also wanted to be able to show/sell one and vice versa...

Concerning the decision to buy one or not - I can only talk for my decision, and maybe other collectors think a similar way - is the rarity of the watch for a thematic collection.

I collect mainly Omegas and as a special subject chronometers, so the decision was clear for me...

Have you had a look on the desk clocks with the 8 days movement - also dead second chronometer grade movement which I included in my post?

They are very reliable and accurat, no issues at all - similar dead second construction... but as the movement is about 59mm in diameter it was much easier to build a reliable movement. And they look marvellous on the desk  smile

regards

Erich

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i've just seen a cal 372 synchro beat dead second chronometer. does anyone own one?

 
By: G99 : March 23rd, 2009-15:42
i have just seen this amazingly rare watch in my usual hunting ground and just wondered if anyone on the forum actually owned one. according to details given 1000 movements were made between 1951 and 1954, but only 17 were ever cased in 18kt gold for comm... 

would you believe i've just come across a Doxa dead second as well!!

 
By: G99 : March 23rd, 2009-15:57
i dont believe whats happening tonight, but 10 minutes after the Omega i've come across a Doxa dead second with 21 jewel Chezard 116 calibre movement. 1/10th of the price, but still a lot of money. i'm quite taken by the dead second movements. i dont know... 

The Omega dead beat is the Omegamania watch

 
By: SamJH : March 24th, 2009-03:32
Which sold for about $46,000 including buyers premium if I recall correctly. The current asking price represents a sizeable loss if Watchpop was the Omegamania purchaser. Dead beat movements are not particularly rare, but not common either. >> Omega pulle... 

Sam, i cant believe that...

 
By: G99 : March 24th, 2009-04:31
Sam, i cant believe that Watchpop would buy from Antiquorum as he is a dealer first and foremost so perhaps someone is hit by the credit crunch. i like the idea of a dead beat. it appeals to my sense of being different to the norm. i know its a fairly sim... 

Videos!

 
By: gatorcpa : March 24th, 2009-20:59
I always like to trot out this video when the talk turns to Tru-Beats: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hv5HN9tM6TA Here's a video of the movement in action: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBLvmo_9ofY Here's one of the Chezard movement: http://www.youtube.c... 

thanks for those Vids, very...

 
By: G99 : March 25th, 2009-04:23
thanks for those Vids, very enlightening. did the rolex and chezard have the same reliability problems as the omega? best Graham

The Rolex was so unreliable...

 
By: gatorcpa : March 25th, 2009-20:18
... watches that were sent in for factory service had their "Tru-beat" pieces pulled by Rolex without appeal, even if working perfectly. Most of the cal. 1040 movements out there have been neutered by Rolex over the years. Don't know much about the Chezar... 

Francois, i 'thought' i noticed...

 
By: G99 : March 26th, 2009-02:21
Francois, i 'thought' i noticed the irregular beat, but thought it was my imagination and as i didnt want to sound stupid i didnt say anything :( it sounds to me like they are to be left well alone and let them pass into the annuls of history as 'somethin... 

Ah!

 
By: francois : March 26th, 2009-05:50
Graham wrote: "i 'thought' i noticed the irregular beat, but thought it was my imagination and as i didnt want to sound stupid i didnt say anything Well, I'm never afraid of sounding stupid! ;-D ...I probably don't realize it!

Francois, i've had some personal...

 
By: G99 : March 26th, 2009-06:40
Francois, i've had some personal things on my mind over the last couple of days and when thats the case i'm liable to either sound stupid or be too blunt for my own good so best not to say anything :) thanks for the very detailed explanation. your quite r... 

I understand ...

 
By: mac_omega : March 26th, 2009-07:49
Hi Graham, I understand your thoughts that you think it is useless to buy a watch with a useless complication. Just see it this way: There was a (maybe stupid) competition between several brands to create a dead second movement. If Omega had one in their ... 

Erich,   please forgive me,...

 
By: G99 : March 26th, 2009-08:09
Erich, please forgive me, i didnt mean to demean anyone who chooses to own such a watch. at one time i used to collect only Omegas and i would certainly have wanted one in my collection at the time so i can fully understand you having one in your collecti... 

Irregular beat?

 
By: francois : March 25th, 2009-19:05
Thanks for the videos gator! Very interesting. Am I alone in finding that the Chezard seconds hand is moving somewhat irregularly? It seems there are short, and longer seconds...

I know the source...

 
By: mac_omega : March 24th, 2009-14:51
Hi all, I know the source where the watch comes from - it is definately NOT Antiqu...  it was sold on the ..bay some time ago with a bad dial and obviously had been restored for the man in Taiwan. It was also on my watch list but was sold "prematurely" as...