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Were this piece ever available outside of the boutique?
Anthony, I presume that in going forward, the 317 is only going to be available through boutique which means there is absolutely no discount off MSRP.
However, as George asked, ADs took orders before so was 317 ever available outside of a pam boutique? I supposed so.
Nonetheless, the good news, George, then is that 317 will be available and more and more so through the boutique just like the 292. It was rare during the J production but now they are becoming more available with K and L. With ongoing production, you will only see MORE and MORE 317 and not less so it is going to become more widely available. There was 500 during K, another 500 in L and 500 more in M and in a few years more time you will have 2000-3000 in circulation? So you will be able to get one and it is only a matter of time and even if you don't get it first hand, the secondary market will soon have more of these pieces for sale. They are priced around 290K USD now a fairly standard price on collectors' market. I see that price will go down which is good news for those who want to acquire this piece.
PAM 317 Update on discontinuation of blackened movement?
There had been many responses on this topic. Anthony, has there been any update on your insider news on whether or not the current production of 317 will continue after K series only with smoked glasses?
Hey I'm interested
I would really love to have an update. I'm keen on knowing whether there is still a chance the PAM 317 I order a while back be delivered one day. Regards, George
Update
It's been confirmed by numerous 'official' sources that PAM317 from L series onward will all be made w/ movement WITHOUT PVD coating but fitted with smoked sapphire crystal display back, like PAM335. So the 500 pieces of K serie will be the ONLY ones w/ P...
New price
I guess that this would imply that the new prices would be lower no? George
A wishful thinking
but I doubt it. If anything I'm guessing that given the reject rate of the PVD coating, the K serie 317 wasn't ecnomically justified.
I was told by the NYC boutique that the 317 is being discontinued
I just recently picked up a K series, and was informed by the NYC boutique that the 317 is now discontinued. Again, seems there is conflicting information, but the person who told me said that they got the official word from Panerai about 2 weeks ago.
I would go by Jester but there seems to be asymmetric information
It is highly likely that mangement at Panerai had decided to discontinue it 2 weeks ago and then changed their minds and then finalized that "why not just use smoked glasses since the P 2004 is already on the 311?" I would aligh with Jester's view. There ...
Regarding pricings
If we're talking about FX related pricing fluctuation within certain economic entity, this is a much broader topic. Above I was merely doubting about the reduction in price in CHF terms.
Survivor Vs 317
Agree Jest. The point is if you fly into the Euro zone today with the euro around 1.27 and going as low as 1.26 in last night's trading session (not to mention the 999/1000 erroneous inputting billions instead of millions like on PS 3 by a trader)... you ...
Spot on mate...
it's funny you can never win. They'll increase the foreigh currency denominated price if EUR appreciated as the importer would cite the increased cost due to EUR appreciation. They'll increase the EUR price if EUR depreciated just so that the EUR price is...
I too am confirming Jester's info - got this info straight from Panerai's CEO
Sig Bonati says: a) Has this model been discontinued? Or will Panerai continue to produce 500 pieces each year? The PAM00317 has not been discontinued and Panerai will continue to produce it. b) Is the reason why production is slow is due to the PVD coati...
Disappointing
This is very disappointing for a Panerai aficionado. In effect, I ordered a 317 from my local AD back in October of 2008 only to find out today that P anerai is now going to reserve it for its boutiques. I honestly consider that Panerai should honor all o...
from the marketing point of view....
this could be a good move for Richemont. I mean, without allowing for "fancy" models to be sold in the Boutiques, the usual suspects would end up with all the goodies. You enter a Boutique (the main vehicle for the brand) and all you find are 231s, 111, 1...
Were this piece ever available outside of the boutique?
Anthony, I presume that in going forward, the 317 is only going to be available through boutique which means there is absolutely no discount off MSRP. However, as George asked, ADs took orders before so was 317 ever available outside of a pam boutique? I ...
Finding one
Finding one is not the problem. I'm sure that I will always be able to manage that part, one way or another. What bothers me is the way Panerai has treated this whole thing. They are aware of all the orders placed by AD's by their clients and of the fact ...
George, can you get your money back?
I certainly hope so. Well, if this is at all true that 317 is only available from boutique, you better move your deposit from AD to the boutique. I hope the AD's deposit isn't non refundable and they force you to eat up the quota on another watch (saying ...
No problem
Getting my money back from my AD is not a problem and never was. Getting Panerai to respect orders that were placed a long time ago now that is a real problem. Regards, George
Bye bye Panerai
I have just cancelled my order for the 317 with my dealer. Not just me who is extremely disappointed but my dealer as well, as until two weeks ago Panerai has been telling him that he would still receive the watch (however, they did not say it will be a l...