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pam is pretty well hedged
They have the platina look and modern "high tech" look offerings as well. I think this whole vintage gig is a over reaction, not REACTION, to the whole financial crisis in 2008 and how we long for a better time etc etc. Not just watches, but cars and bags too. Anyway, by the time the prodcuct chain is designed n done, it hits us in 2010, and if we prosper this year, the size of the "vintage" market will shrink significantly, but it will never go away. Just the premiums we pay. A thread was started in omega about escalating omega connies prices. We all know where vintage rolex traded up to. So 3 things I hunbly opine 1) reworked and relaunched historical product range and/or vintage look to continue for a year or two, 2) real vintage prices surge to new heights with each launch of "new vintage" as interest for them escalate due to relook at forgotten heros and speculators, 3) ecentual collapse as each new vintage cannot hold their prices and discounting happens. Fashion base collectors move on, and sell side volunes increase few folds for preown and new, and real vintages are also being dumped.
My humble opinions, exxagerated of course.
Horo
How do you guys feel about all the vintage looking patina'ed luminova in the new models?
How long will this trend last for? And when will this patina'ed look not be "hot" anymore? If at all ever? Let's hear what you have to stay! Cheers, Anthony
I personally love it on the black and brown finished cases
And I particularly think it complements the brown dials perfectly. I'm not sure if it should be labeled a "trend" just yet, but I am Looking forward to more iterations with the faux patina
I have a bit of a problem with the...faux patina....definition. As
far as the actual colour goes, I like it a lot. I saw the 411 in Florence and licked the dial very much, I like the 339 and others. I hope this trend it's here to stay..... Cheers - Sergio
After I saw it in person...
I don't think I have a problem with it.. It gives more of a vintage look, but then again, it is still not the same as Patina'ed tritium dial.. Especially under the sun... I don't mind if they are keeping this trend... Best, Sam
Hi Sam, I'm assuming you mean it has a green hue under sunlight
if so then I agree it will not look the same as a true T dial. I wonder if there is a luminova that has a more orange hue when "charged".
Kind of...
On my 249, which also have "faux" patina, it doesn't have any greenish hue. But I'm not sure on the newer ones. Actually I had a chance to observe my friend's 360 but didn't have much chance to see how the "faux" patina on it looked like under the sun.. B...
I need to add up more...
I don't mind if they're keeping this trend, but only for appropriate models.. like the 372, 339, 341.. but not on the "too" contemporary models, like the daylight or the other chrono model.. My 2 cents, Sam
I don't mind the patinated look
Although my only concern is that they seem to not "shine" as bright nor for as long as the non-patinated ones of days gone by. Other than that, for the looks under sunlight, it's perfect! Cheers Stephen
I had somewhere a document showing the Luminova nuances.
It ins interesting to see all the existing nuances and chromatic differences. From the green to the brown, passing by the white and the yellow, orange there is an amazing variety of possibilities. I will try to find it. Do we have to see it as a trend? We...
Why are you disturbed by....
the composite, to such an extent? Would this not be the material, a modern day Guido Panerai would offer the Marina Militare for its special forces? Rugged, tough as nail, lighter than dust....I'm genuinely interested to know.... Ciao - Sergio
It would be great if it was the privilege of the 339...
Now that I see it used in 2 other Panerais, it is a bit like eating caviar at each meal ... You can quickly get tired of it. I fear it is becoming a new trend. Best, Nicolas
I agree
They should have kept it for the 339, it should have been special. Like AP should have kept the forged carbon for the allinghi ,today they use is too much I'm affraid the bronze diver (382) also won't be the only one.
I think we should all bear in mind that
OP/Richemont is here to make money. There might be fine difference between making quick profit vs. longer term profitability but they're afterall a business. So I can't imagine why they wouldn't want to replicate any successful product to keep up the reve...
Dear Nicolas
i would like to know your opinion on a thought i have in mind... i can understand brands with vintage watches using the VINTAGE looking patina luminova as BRIDGING between a new model and and old one ... but what do you think of those who are using it for...
Hey Nicolas.....
what about the 300....what are your thoughts on this piece?...You know I value your...insights. My trusted flipper just offered me one and since he's going to ask for a "demential" amount of money, ask Nicolas....first Ciao - Sergio
Hola Sergio.
If it is to wear it, go for the Pre V, or the Pam 6, 7 or 8. Or maybe wait for a further reduced Pam 300? Don't get me wrong, I love the Mare, and I love the Pam 300. When I saw it in the display window of the Panerai Booth at the 2010 SIHH, my heart was ...
Thanks Nicolas.....
I already have the "bought but don't wear it" 341. I'm curious to find out what will happen....hahahaha Ciao - Sergio
No, Imo, I had a pic which compared luminosity to each color of Luminova.
As I lost my all new computer, I have to check in my 2 mongrel computers to see where is this picture... Best, Nicolas.
I really love it.
I really love it as it matches with my strap very well. I would think watch should be dynamic, plus advocating the Patina or we have to wait years to enjoy the look, kinda too long. T dial has more radiation than L dial, so less harmful for the wearer at ...
pam is pretty well hedged
They have the platina look and modern "high tech" look offerings as well. I think this whole vintage gig is a over reaction, not REACTION, to the whole financial crisis in 2008 and how we long for a better time etc etc. Not just watches, but cars and bags...
i think it looks very nice , looking at the boutique edition
It will certainly add a new flavour to the future of Panerai, imo. Regards John
It makes all the NON FAT letterings look odd to me now
I like it... a few naked shots on my favourites: A human torpedo under the moon: Torpedo vs IWC (Yacht Master and Perpetual calendar: To me the best FAT is on this with thicker lettering but it is very different from 203a: Under bright sunlight This is al...
well
i Believe the usage of Vintage looking patina luminova will reach to and end as soon as the going back to the roots era is gone.. as it came out to the light as a mean of bridging element between the vintage watches and their reditions or their look alike...
Anthony, the sashimis are there for comparisons
For you and they contrast nicely with the FAKE PATINA. However, it is like thinking about the use of Ceramic or Composite... will this trend continue or fade? I see that we are steering more towards new age innovative materials than PVD/DLC. What is your ...
Not a fan.
Looks pretty good but the ideology behind it pretty lame... fake patina... its in the name really, not cool. My wild guess it will not stand the test of time and will be seen as a step in the wrong direction... give it 5 years or so. White or straight up ...
Patina on PVD and Brown
Here's one more based on Brown Hues, Yellow Hues THE FAT does bring out the watch well....
how long will it last ??!
i have no Idea Anthony. but Hope it's here to Stay for a Good Reason:. it gives a Nice Vintage AND Warm Look to the Watch over all .. Cheers Tony
If you can't stand the radiation...
then you don't deserve the "Faux" Patina. As trendy as those new 47mms. Panerai got it right with the 351 and a few others in 2010, the others are merely "simulacrums" of the vintage (past).
Jester said it aptly
OP and Richemont is here to make a buck and it will last as long as this cash cow keeps churning out cash by having these PATINA FAUX pieces being well received.