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as I mentioned in a different thread recently
Jul 25, 2020,08:16 AM
All watches from the Montblanc Villeret 1858 Collection (now discontinuedI) carry on the backside "Fait main a Villeret" (handmade in Villeret). The "newer" models with the same calibers carry "Swiss made". I once heard the rumor that some pieces of the caliber have been outsourced whilst the whole caliber of the Villeret 1858 collection has been handmade in Villeret. The different origins on these watches would support this rumor - next to the quantities of calibers (13.21 and 16.29) that have been produced in the meantime.
And as I said before I believe that there is a difference in finish between these "versions".
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Indeed !
By: jrwong23 (aka watchthebin) : May 21st, 2020-05:45
I don’t get bored of this one
Beauty Robin
By: Tick Talk : May 20th, 2020-17:25
Wear it (and photograph it) in good health
Thanks a lot Dean !
By: jrwong23 (aka watchthebin) : May 21st, 2020-05:46
Good to hear from you again
That's it!
By: TeutonicCarFan : May 20th, 2020-18:07
A true beauty
Have a look
By: Weems@8 : May 21st, 2020-02:57
When it comes to movements, calibre 13.21 is a stunning movement. It sets me thinking, get a watch with a balanced adjusted balance wheel.
All well here amigo :)
By: jrwong23 (aka watchthebin) : May 21st, 2020-17:02
Nice to hear from you ! Take care and stay safe Cheers Robin
The history of the Minerva 13-20 (now 13.21) - nearly 100 years old.
By: chezlaskin : May 21st, 2020-07:41
I too have one of these. Mine is from that period of time when the Frey family sold the company - and before they became affiliated with MontBlanc (the early 2000's). Spectacular movement. The original Minerva 13-20 dates from 1923. And these newer versio...
+ 1 ! [nt]
By: jrwong23 (aka watchthebin) : May 21st, 2020-17:03
Beautiful dial and movement !!
By: jrwong23 (aka watchthebin) : May 21st, 2020-17:03
Thanks for sharing ! Would love to see how Montblanc celebrates that anniversary Cheers Robin
WOW! This is gorgeous
By: singingbee : May 21st, 2020-21:53
Really hope MB will release something similar to this for Minerva anniversary! And if you decide to let go off this beauty one day, please let me know! I know I am just trying my luck.
my 13.21. says hello
By: penfriend : May 22nd, 2020-02:41
although I must admit that the earlier produced Villeret calibers like yours are even better finished than the more recent ones like mine. as I own the 16.29 (snake dial chrono) and the 16.32 (tachydate) from the Villeret collection I have compared a lot ...
+1 [nt]
By: jrwong23 (aka watchthebin) : May 22nd, 2020-06:13
I think so to be honest
By: jrwong23 (aka watchthebin) : July 24th, 2020-06:39
At least when they were very exclusive in the Collection Villeret days. Now with so many deployed into the 1858 series , I have my doubts. Will be good if someone can compare under a loupe the 13.21s in the older Villeret collection vs the current 13.21s ...
as I mentioned in a different thread recently
By: penfriend : July 25th, 2020-08:16
All watches from the Montblanc Villeret 1858 Collection (now discontinuedI) carry on the backside "Fait main a Villeret" (handmade in Villeret). The "newer" models with the same calibers carry "Swiss made". I once heard the rumor that some pieces of the c...
to be honest no
By: penfriend : July 26th, 2020-03:58
But the strategy under the former CEO Mr. Bethge was to produce 100% in Villeret (fait main) and to invent new calibers in a HC category instead of scaling up existing calibers. They had the 1-8-58 approach for watches, meaning 1 version in platinum, 8 in...
surely they are still being produced
By: penfriend : July 26th, 2020-05:32
but my guess is that they are now not solely made in Villeret (but maybe parts are supplied from third parties?) I really don't know for 100%; but having been to Villeret twice I am very sure that this small group of watchmakers cannot produce these quant...
Yes that cannot be disputed
By: singingbee : July 26th, 2020-04:54
The 1858 Tachymeter is the most value for money chronograph for a collector to enter the world of haute horology chronographs.
Yes those two beauties!
By: singingbee : July 27th, 2020-00:47
The black enamel dial model seems even rarer. Can’t find much pics or posts on it on forums.
Thanks for sharing !
By: jrwong23 (aka watchthebin) : July 25th, 2020-08:48
I missed your previous post. This is very interesting. I am glad I have a timepiece from the now discontinued Collection 1858
Yes bro
By: singingbee : May 22nd, 2020-07:32
Then we need to find someone who have the more recent models featuring the 13.21. With regards to the other larger Minerva calibres, I have no comments as I have nothing to compare against. Maybe Winston will know more?
Nice shot !
By: jrwong23 (aka watchthebin) : May 22nd, 2020-06:13
I didn’t realise earlier vs later periods Minerva calibres from Villeret have different finishing levels. I assumed they are the same. Will try to check out next time