Depends on one thing: As a former collector owning one of these early pieces, yes, the old strategy is the only one. Now, if you start with the 1858 Tachymeter, you are very happy...

Jul 26, 2020,04:43 AM
 

To be able to get such a marvel at such a price!
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Minerva calibre 13.21 powering my Montblanc Villeret chronograph

 
 By: jrwong23 (aka watchthebin) : May 20th, 2020-16:48
View under a loupe. Enjoy Cheers Robin ...  

A real feast! [nt]

 
 By: amanico : May 20th, 2020-16:55

Indeed !

 
 By: jrwong23 (aka watchthebin) : May 21st, 2020-05:45
I don’t get bored of this one

Beauty Robin

 
 By: Tick Talk : May 20th, 2020-17:25
Wear it (and photograph it) in good health

Thanks a lot Dean !

 
 By: jrwong23 (aka watchthebin) : May 21st, 2020-05:46
Good to hear from you again

That's it!

 
 By: TeutonicCarFan : May 20th, 2020-18:07
A true beauty

Glad you like this :) [nt]

 
 By: jrwong23 (aka watchthebin) : May 21st, 2020-05:46

Welcome back Robin!

 
 By: patrick_y : May 20th, 2020-20:56
Missed you very much!

Haha thanks buddy ! [nt]

 
 By: jrwong23 (aka watchthebin) : May 21st, 2020-05:46

Beautiful view Robin

 
 By: singingbee : May 20th, 2020-22:50
Loves it!

Thanks bro ! :) [nt]

 
 By: jrwong23 (aka watchthebin) : May 21st, 2020-05:46

These Minerva chronos are all beauties :) [nt]

 
 By: jrwong23 (aka watchthebin) : May 21st, 2020-05:47

Thanks mate ! [nt]

 
 By: jrwong23 (aka watchthebin) : May 21st, 2020-05:47

Have a look

 
 By: Weems@8 : May 21st, 2020-02:57
When it comes to movements, calibre 13.21 is a stunning movement. It sets me thinking, get a watch with a balanced adjusted balance wheel.

I don't often post on this board, but for you? Great to see you my Friend!

 
 By: MichaelC : May 21st, 2020-07:09
Awesome movement shot too. Hope all is well your way.

All well here amigo :)

 
 By: jrwong23 (aka watchthebin) : May 21st, 2020-17:02
Nice to hear from you ! Take care and stay safe Cheers Robin

The history of the Minerva 13-20 (now 13.21) - nearly 100 years old.

 
 By: chezlaskin : May 21st, 2020-07:41
I too have one of these. Mine is from that period of time when the Frey family sold the company - and before they became affiliated with MontBlanc (the early 2000's). Spectacular movement. The original Minerva 13-20 dates from 1923. And these newer versio...  

+ 1 ! [nt]

 
 By: jrwong23 (aka watchthebin) : May 21st, 2020-17:03

Beautiful dial and movement !!

 
 By: jrwong23 (aka watchthebin) : May 21st, 2020-17:03
Thanks for sharing ! Would love to see how Montblanc celebrates that anniversary Cheers Robin

WOW! This is gorgeous

 
 By: singingbee : May 21st, 2020-21:53
Really hope MB will release something similar to this for Minerva anniversary! And if you decide to let go off this beauty one day, please let me know! I know I am just trying my luck.

Spectacular...thanks for sharing Chez. [nt]

 
 By: redcorals : July 26th, 2020-05:48
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my 13.21. says hello

 
 By: penfriend : May 22nd, 2020-02:41
although I must admit that the earlier produced Villeret calibers like yours are even better finished than the more recent ones like mine. as I own the 16.29 (snake dial chrono) and the 16.32 (tachydate) from the Villeret collection I have compared a lot ...  

That I totally agree! [nt]

 
 By: singingbee : May 22nd, 2020-03:26

+1 [nt]

 
 By: jrwong23 (aka watchthebin) : May 22nd, 2020-06:13

I think so to be honest

 
 By: jrwong23 (aka watchthebin) : July 24th, 2020-06:39
At least when they were very exclusive in the Collection Villeret days. Now with so many deployed into the 1858 series , I have my doubts. Will be good if someone can compare under a loupe the 13.21s in the older Villeret collection vs the current 13.21s ... 

as I mentioned in a different thread recently

 
 By: penfriend : July 25th, 2020-08:16
All watches from the Montblanc Villeret 1858 Collection (now discontinuedI) carry on the backside "Fait main a Villeret" (handmade in Villeret). The "newer" models with the same calibers carry "Swiss made". I once heard the rumor that some pieces of the c... 

to be honest no

 
 By: penfriend : July 26th, 2020-03:58
But the strategy under the former CEO Mr. Bethge was to produce 100% in Villeret (fait main) and to invent new calibers in a HC category instead of scaling up existing calibers. They had the 1-8-58 approach for watches, meaning 1 version in platinum, 8 in... 

surely they are still being produced

 
 By: penfriend : July 26th, 2020-05:32
but my guess is that they are now not solely made in Villeret (but maybe parts are supplied from third parties?) I really don't know for 100%; but having been to Villeret twice I am very sure that this small group of watchmakers cannot produce these quant... 

Thanks for sharing, I much prefer the older strategy

 
 By: singingbee : July 26th, 2020-04:40
I have downloaded the PDF for my reference already.

Yes that cannot be disputed

 
 By: singingbee : July 26th, 2020-04:54
The 1858 Tachymeter is the most value for money chronograph for a collector to enter the world of haute horology chronographs.

as you know I also own the 1858 green 13.21 from the newer times

 
 By: penfriend : July 26th, 2020-05:35
because the dial is so amazing and because it seems to be (hopefully) the only green iteration

I think there are only 1 model which is below 40mm in the old Villeret collection

 
 By: singingbee : July 27th, 2020-00:24
The Villeret Vintage Pulsographe is 39.5mm and available in WG and RG variants. Each variant has 58 pieces.

Yes those two beauties!

 
 By: singingbee : July 27th, 2020-00:47
The black enamel dial model seems even rarer. Can’t find much pics or posts on it on forums.

Thanks for sharing !

 
 By: jrwong23 (aka watchthebin) : July 25th, 2020-08:48
I missed your previous post. This is very interesting. I am glad I have a timepiece from the now discontinued Collection 1858

Wah good to compare and verify next time :) [nt]

 
 By: jrwong23 (aka watchthebin) : May 22nd, 2020-06:14

Yes bro

 
 By: singingbee : May 22nd, 2020-07:32
Then we need to find someone who have the more recent models featuring the 13.21. With regards to the other larger Minerva calibres, I have no comments as I have nothing to compare against. Maybe Winston will know more?

Yah bro, we can ask the Beerstyle bro :) [nt]

 
 By: jrwong23 (aka watchthebin) : May 25th, 2020-16:30

Yes bro ! 😀 [nt]

 
 By: singingbee : May 26th, 2020-01:17

Nice shot !

 
 By: jrwong23 (aka watchthebin) : May 22nd, 2020-06:13
I didn’t realise earlier vs later periods Minerva calibres from Villeret have different finishing levels. I assumed they are the same. Will try to check out next time