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To date or not to date?
I am very late to chime in but it took me a while to make up my mind about the new Master Chronograph.
And even if you may not want to hear it any more it has something to do with the date display.
In general I am very pleased with the way JLC filled the Chrono gap in the Master line.
And I am not going to start again the discussion if there should be a date display or not.
Personally I prefer having a date on a watch that is intended to be useful. Which a Chronograph is by default in my opinion. But I can also live without a date. Real Speedies don't have dates and they have proven to amongst the most useful watches in the world.
But enough of that. There is a date on the new Master Chronograph, so let's talk about that. There are three things that I would like to add to the discussion:
First I would like to remind you all of the Master Compressor Chrono (eg. ref 1758470) that - I am informed well - houses cal. 751 also and has the date at the 6 o'clock position.
(picture taken from JLC web site)
So in technical terms that should have been an option. Probably it is none in aesthetical terms for the Master Chrono.
Second I absolutely agree with Nikolaj who painted a version with a horizontal date. Seeing the new Chrono I immediately remembered the previous model of the Master Hometime that showed very nicely how this would look like:
(picture taken from this post by raydbonz)
Third thing is the most serious for me. The designers chose the font on the date disc matching to all the other tiny inscriptions on the dial. That would have been very nice if there was not the large modern applied 12 on top of the dial. The classic font in the date windows contrasts to that in a quite unpleasant way. Again the previous Master Hometime - but also a 40 years old Memovox - can show how nicely better matching fonts of the date and of the large numbers on the dial work. At least it is a Sans Serif font. I think it is more important to make these two match than it is to match the date with the other tiny inscription on the dial.
So my choice would be: Leave the date out at all or change the design to make it look more like the old Hometime. The way it is now indeed makes the Chrono give away a lot of its great potential. Which I consider a pity because I like a lot the rest of the new Master Chronograph.
Of course this is my very personal option that none of you is expected to share.
Best,
Martin
The New Master Chronograph or the Return of true values.
JLC releases, this year 2 very important watches, in my opinion: The Master Memovox, and this Master Chronograph. We'll later see the new Memovox, or should I use the plural, as they are 2. But the Chronograph and the Memovox play the card of some cardina...
I understand your enthusiasm, Imran...
Good to hear from you, my friend! Best, Nicolas
This is the review I was waiting for...
Thank you very much Nicloas. I have been waiting for Jaeger to produce an elegant chrono in the master collection. I love the porportions. 40 x 12.6 with those beautiful lugs appears to be the perfect size. I can't wait to see them in the metal. Now, how ...
You don't have a JLC Boutique in Canada?
Or at least a big AD who can provide it to you? Or you can contact any other JLC Boutique, and if in Europa, you may detax it... Like you, I think this Chrono will be a big hit, for JLC. A charmful piece. Best, my friend. Nicolas
RE: (jlc) The New Master Chronograph or the Return of true values
nicolas: as always, a fantastic post. thanks very much. best, val
Thank You Nicholas!
Thank you for the report and beautiful pictures. This new model is a truly stunning surprise. I've posted a number of complaints on the other popular JLC forum regarding a lack of taste in design coming from the firm in the past few years (with a few nota...
Well, Robert, I'm one of these weird guys
Who can appreciate these classic pieces, and at the same time some more audacious ones... I'm very happy to see Classics like the Chrono, the Memovox, and the Duomètre, not to mention the MGT Grande Complication, indeed. Please, wait for the Memovox post,...
You are not werid Nicolas, strange but not weird ;-) LOL
You are also too funny! Best my friend, -- Richard.
Agreed - an attractive design need not be conservative
merely well, thought out and executed. The original Amvox2 in Titanium/Steel is one of my favorite JLCs of the past decade or so, as is the Diver Chrono, despite what I might think would be better judgment. I love them both.
didn't need your help
I was immediately smitten by this new chronograph, and your quick presentation has done nothing to dampen my interest. Merci bien Nicolas
Thanks for the wonderful review...
May I ask if there is a bracelet for the steel version? Goh
Well, Goh
I have a first information, which needs to be confirmed, but it seems that for the moment, a bracelet won't work on the new Chrono, as well as on the Memovox. Will have a confirmation of this information in a week, and will come back to you. Best, Nicolas
Many thanks Nicolas...
...for checking, but I hope that your confirmation provides a different answer. Best, Goh
I just received an email from my contact at the Manufacture
AND.... ..... The SS Bracelet is available as an option! Best Nicolas
Wonderful...
Thanks Nicolas for the information. The 'normal' version in SS with the heated blue hands would be my choice, along with the Master Memovox or Memovox Int'l. It is unfortunate that I was rejected for the forth-coming preview of the SIHH 2010 collections i...
Hopefully, it won't take long before you can see them in the flesh, Goh
Too sad you were rejected... I don't get it, seriously. Let us know! Best, Nicolas
I don't understand as well...
I reponded positively on the same day I received the inviation from JLC, but was told that there are no more opening. Guess the responses must be too overwhelming. Best, Goh
Lovely, Lovely, Lovely...
All three of them! I love the proportions and the dial lay-out and - whereas I would have been of a different opinion a few years back - I fully approve of the solid caseback on these pieces. I must give seperate praise of the chrono hands: Heat blued! I ...
The heated blue hands on the Chrono are just a great idea, indeed.
It is an important feature, IMO, on this Chrono. To separate in a clear way the Time and the Chrono is so great. This is a lovely piece, and I'm pretty sure it will be a hit for any Chrono Lover. Best, Nicolas This message has been edited by amanico on 20...
Very nice
Thank you the report Nicolas. Very nice, perfect robust/simply ballance. It looks like good for everyday wearing. Beauty hands, dial. SS case better for my taste... Cheers, Milan This message has been edited by foullis on 2010-01-26 00:21:06
LOVE the boutique dial!!! My only wish...
is that JLC would have opted for a hinged caseback, "in the grand tradition." My guess is that JLC never opted for an exhibition back on the 75X series because of all the controversy surrounding its resemblance to another wonderful chronograph produced "d...
Yep, hinged caseback
would solve it and it would be ok as I think the Piguet stains are less obvious 'balance wheel side' anyway. Great to see a return to a narrow bezel and a more classic feel, but that date is surely clunky and their choice of font remains regretful. A no-b...
Now that I think about it, I'd also loved to have a black dial.
I'm sure that all these versions will find their fans, and that there is a place for some ruthenium or black dials, too... Like you, I was stunned by this Boutique Edition dial. The hinged case back would have been a very nice solution, indeed! Best, Nico...
Instant classic
I am really impressed, this looks like a watch for the long run. Love the rectangular chrono pushers and the overall balanced feel of the watch. This is the kind of watch you'd give for someone graduating or getting married and that represents the right v...
Thank you Nicolas
Hi, A very nice piece indeed! Is the pulsometer scale revealing anything about its positioning? I'm very happy to see plain backs come back! Cheers Dje
Yep, Jerome, the Pulsometer scale is another nice detail
About its Vintage positioning... Best, my friend. Nicolas
Absolute winner IMO
Yes Nicolas, I think I fell in love with this watch the moment I saw it on the JLC website. I considered the Master Hometime a year ago, but went for the RDM. I felt there was something missing in the new Hometime dial. But everything else was superb; 40 ...
Hi, Starman
When I first saw the noew Honetime, I was hoping that JLC adopts this case for their new releases, and that's what they're doing, now, with this new Master Chrono and the new Memovox. So, the case is an excellent point, IMO. The case back is not a big dea...
can't believer thar "temptation is your pleasure"....
.... Nico. you are a bad boy again! by the way, i like the SS case with silver dial and RG Indexes and time hands. they are perfectly matched. stefan
THX Amanico
It's really beautiful. I really love the retro look. The dauphine's hand are wonderful. So simple, so perfect. I agree the solid back, better than showinf a 976 like movement... A bit expensive maybe.. And i wonder why they put luminous dots at 3 and 9 .....
Hey, Nicolas...Great to read you!
2 things: 1/ Is it expensive? Compared to the Competitors offer, it is not the most expensive, nor the less, so this is a subjective matter. Let's say that for all the qualities of this model and for all its " virtues ", I think that it is correctly rated...
Thanks for
another of your tireless reviews, Nicholas. I have to admit that the Master Chrono was initially one the biggest disappointments IMO from JLC this year when I first read the SIHH 2010 news. I suspect many of us have been waiting for a classic chrono with ...
Well, Damian, it is difficult to do more " Classic " with this Chrono
Don't you think? The nicely reworked case, the understated dial ( normal versions ) or vintage one ( Boutique Edition ), the solid case back, all these elements are referring to a Classic Time piece, IMO. One point I agree...A Blue Pulsometer scale would ...
Great !
Great photos, great review and great watch ! A classical and affordable new chronograph, that didn't happen for years ! Good Job, thanks JLC Best regards Francois
My thoughts.....
Thank you Nicolas for a great review..... A well designed watch but I do have some doubts whether this will be a successful one for JLC.... A very solid & retro design that does "hit" the heart of watch lovers..... a classic dial and a Jaeger craftsmanshi...
Interesting point about the JLC DNA.
If you " dive " into the JLC History, you will find, here again some inspiration from the " La Grande Maison " Past. Till now, JLC didn't go on this ground, at the notable exception of the Duomètre... But the Duometre is another league, in terms of s...
The boutique edn ROCKS IMO!
I normally am not a big fan of RG, but this combo works for me. Any idea on the price N?! Thx in advance my friend and B well, Matrix.
Same price than the regular SS Chrono, Matrix.
Isn't this excellent news? Thanks for your comments, Matrix. Best, Nicolas
Fantastic...
Great review, thank you Nicolas. The watch is awesome and I like the engraved back, but it would appear that the gold seal is indeed a thing of the past. Not particularly bothersome, but a change all the same. Best, -P
About the case back
What I love is the reference to the Geophysic Logo, which was born in 1958... In a certain way, a nice " clin d'oeil ", don't you think? Thanks for your nice words, Patrick. Best, Nicolas
agreed...
A very nice tie to the past in a year with the return of many classic elements. Best, -P
About that date...
Nicolas - I'll add my thanks, despite your disclaimer. This is a beautiful watch, and a very worthy addition to the Master control line. JLC made the right choices with the size and the materials, IMO. The LE is my favorite. But that date window seems awk...
Interesting comment on the angled date...
your comment had me wondering if the dial wouldn't be more pleasing to the eye if the date wasn't angled... hhmmm a quick and dirty shot at photo manipulation: IMHO it is more pleasing with a non-angled date. I believe this would have been easy enough to ...
About the Date...
If I remember well one conversation with Magali last year, she told me that the Cal 75X always has a date located at 4.30. So, if you use such a Cal, you can't modifiy the location of the Date. And indeed, if you look at the EWC, the Amvox II, or the MC D...
An absolute marvel
JLC did a very good job this new marvel. Thanks for the great review. How is the legability of the dials on the normal version? In the photo the silver on silver looks a bit hard to see. For that reason the Boutique edition seems to be the winner. As for ...
Hi, Rik
To me, the legibility is not questionnable, on the SS normal version. I guess the choice between the normal and the Boutique Edition will depend on everybody's taste. Some will prefer the understated normal Chrono, others will better consider the Boutique...
I completely agree...
That no lay-out can please everybody. Date or no-date, I am not so picky, but I must agree with some here that the angled date window stands out more on this relatively clean dial (compared to say the Amvox2). From a theoretical perspective, would it not ...
To date or not to date?
I am very late to chime in but it took me a while to make up my mind about the new Master Chronograph. And even if you may not want to hear it any more it has something to do with the date display. In general I am very pleased with the way JLC filled the ...
Hi, Tom
I answered just below Nikolaj's answer, my friend. Thanks for your nice words! Best, Nicolas
Very impressive pics my friend ...
I am very happy that JLC offers us a chronograph in the range master, it is a superb watch ! Thanks for sharing Nicolas Best Patrice
Really thanks, Nicolas.
Nice review and awesome pics. I must admit that, when I´ve seen the first pic, a watch came into my mind.... the Duometre! Then, when I´ve continue reading your post I´ve seen that you made mention about it... By the way, an impressive, elegant, beautiful...
Nice
Nice .... what's more to say, it is just a very no-nonsense, pure design. Doesn't it make one think of a VC chronograph or am i wrong here? Anyway, the caseback is crazy too and my favorite would be the SS. JLC has really done some beautifull things latel...
It mostly makes me think to a nice Vintage piece
In a modern construction... A kind of " Best of both worlds "... Tha,nks for your input, Filip! Best, Nicolas
great classic design, reminds me of this:
Thank you for the great photos and review Nicholas. This chronograph looks almost exactly like the Wempe Zeitmeister chronograph, but with the Hometime case and JLC quality, can't imagine how one could find a nicer chronograph for the price. Thanks, Scott
Aesthetics is one thing, quality is more objective, indeed.
And you're absolutely right...This Chrono is " sweating " Quality. Thanks for your input, Scott. Best, Nicolas
Many think of JLC as..
a big mish mash of dozens and dozens of models going from the most affordable reverso to the Gyro.A big pot where the Maison seems to discriminate and make money from the most commercial numbers in its collection(Reversos,master control etc..) in order to...
With this collection, I think that JLC is in the good way, indeed.
From the " simple " to the most complicated, from the Classic to the Modern and Innovative, JLC seems to happily fill the blanks and to play its partition with a certain happyness. What they're doing for several years now, with an evident regularity, is j...
Truly an elegant and ...
refined rendition of a chronograph. The RG is beautiful and I hear it calling my name. Thank you Nicolas for this wonderful temptation. N
Very nice indeed.
Modern classics. I really like the Boutique Edition. They did a great job on that one.
It would indeed be a nice addition in your great collection, my friend.
This message has been edited by amanico on 2010-01-26 23:46:52
Date aperture kills it for me.
Maybe they'll sell more, but IMO, this will never be a classic JLC. It is a shame as I was salivating for a master chronograph, a notable omission from the lineup. John
As I said, John,
It may be a problem for some, not for others, but one thing is sure, with the 75X, it is not possible to put the date at another place... Heve a look at trhe Memovox, I will post it next week. Best, and thanks for sharing your thoughts. Nicolas
Hi Nicolas
Right, I understand that the date cannot be shifted without significant re-working, but my strong preference would be to omit the date entirely, which presumably would require much less re-working and IMO would have given it a much more classic look. The ...
For me,too, John ...
I would have preferred without date... But it doesn't bother me that much. Best, Nicolas
Well, first of all...
...EVERYTHING is more chic in French, n'est-ce pas ? I think this new chrono is a great offering from JLC. A wonderful throwback, full of charm, IMO. I do slightly regret the date window, but for me it's not necessarily a deal-breaker for this piece. The ...
LOL, Daos...
I think that after a while you tend to forget the presence of this Date Window on the dial... That was, at least, my impression after a while. Well, as you have your permanent entrance at the BH Boutique, it won't be too difficult for you to get one, IF y...
Wonderful post Nicolas!
I agree, a superb watch. I feel it really fills a gap in the JLC line - a chrono in the Master Control range. It also fills a gap I feel missing in the watch market - a dressy chrono made by a top tier manufacture that is still reasonably priced - the onl...
JLC will certainly happy to read you, Bill
As I wrote it, to me it is an excellent thing for JLC and for their fans to go ALSO this way, and to release some Classics. I hope we'll have other, many other examples! Best, Nicolas
Date? Yes!
Hi guys! first I would like to congratulate this dedicated website and everyone who contribute to this great experience! Over the years I've collected many pieces myself and I have to say: such chronograph will not be appealing if it hadn't had a date! A ...
Wow, what a first enthusiastic post, FC.
What you say about the Date is interesting...I always wondered why people absolutely wanted a date on some watches. But some may also wonder why I am so nut about Alarm watches. To each his own... Thanks for your input, ans Welcome here! Looking forward t...
Thank You
Thanks a lot, Nicolas! It is an absolute pleasure to join this community! I will try to input as much I can, as well as learn and absorb as much as I can from you all. It is interesting how you mentioned alarm, since it is one of my favorite complications...