After much searching I’ve realized that collectors are holding onto t or no t. So I finally got mine. No t. But I think you might be surprised. The lume is still bright and I think they did something to it to make it patina. Anyhow it’s fantastic, I’ve had nearly every master control from the 90s...and my only complaint is the strap. I hate bulky deployments...easy fix, added a first class alligator with tank buckle. The only way I like them.