Independents

Hi agin fellow Independant Purists…I am looking at two limited edition LE, it is limited and about $55K with a Salmon dial and micro rotor, $35k without the micro rotor. It is clear LF has fallen out of favor so I’m concerned about buying the watch below ...  

LF has falled out of favor. I think independent are surging right now with all this tomfoolery going on at the big brands. I think those are both beautiful, I thought the manual wind was already sold out? Lf with micro rotor and direct impulse escapement ... 

LF is still being sold at discounts to the general independant watch market so in my opinion, the market has spoken and LF is not one of the independents surging recently. The fact that Revolution still has one available is proof enough in this crazy mark... 

Sometimes these things just take time. It's funny how one only wants the watches that are unbuyable and wishes they were the moment they're not. There's always a moment in time where they're buyable before they become unbuyable. Just follow your taste and... 

However I own two LF’s and follow them pretty closely so a purchase at $55k would have to be pure passion and some hope …Jim

You would think they would be sold. But also at 55k for a steel watch, that is a limited market. I do think the restrained , dressy nature does limit a lot of the LF desirability. I happen to be biased as I have an origins model- I have always loved the c... 

makes nice watches but I've owned both brands and personally I find the finishing of the LFs to be a notch above FPJ. This might not reflect in the current market prices b ut as collectors you have to trust your own eye for quality and taste. The micro-ro... 

FPJ is a brand that I own may share of and for a good reason, Mr. Journe is a genius and it shows. I am fortunate to have many watches and I love the LF dual time I own but I did buy it at a good price and that makes the watch even better…Jim

You are correct about the ‘dress watch” especially steel limits the market. Do you think the Revolution production makes any significant difference…Jim

I like the revolution x rake watch because the dial and Breguet numerals are my style. When I look at all these different editions for retailers, I don't see that as an exclusivity that drives up the price. I think that it is a way that LF could get paid ... 

Maybe LF will catch on, maybe it won't, but they seem like a great deal atm if you like them. LF's aesthetic doesn't do it for me (neither does FPJ so my taste clearly doesn't mean much) but I keep looking at them because they seem like such great values ... 

I’ve had the same experience as recently in the hot watch market so I agree with your point, however as I said above I love FPJ. But not all dress Watches.. Don’t get me wrong, I think the LF is a wonderful wonderful watch, a very special watch maker and ... 

LF can’t possibly remain this undervalued for the duration of our watch collecting journeys. Love their micro-rotor natural escapement offerings

Many others on this site would disagree with your statement about push for a sizable discount but that is what I do and less it is something that is way over MSRP. I don’t know why I can’t be passionate about a watch and love it while still trying to be a... 

Buy it if you REALLY REALLY REALLY LIKE IT! Like buy it only if you think about it every day. And unfortunately, sometimes you have to pay the price. I've felt I over-payed for a lot of things. But... Then again, I really like my spaceship-looking-mechani... 

Every deal is different and you have to always consider the relationship on the other end… Jim

Consider one of those super-expensive belt buckles from Roland Iten. I mean, goodness, a belt buckle that costs as much as a car! BUT! Consider how few are made. Consider how awesome the relationship is with Roland Iten is. Hearing him think, the mad-geni... 

I liked my galet square boreal when I bought it 6 years ago & now I LOVE it more and more ++++ The LF micro-rotor is the BEST one on the market and the calibre is AWESOME. Welcome to the LF family ;-) ...  

Pretty sure all 20 pieces sold out within a few days of release. Nonetheless, I'm not quite sure what you mean by LF falling out of favor. They make beautiful watches and more and more are starting to appreciate these pieces.

As of 2 weeks ago per revolution website, the the manual wind were sold and the micro rotor were still listed as available. I know because I was going to contact them about the micro rotor but ended up going with a LF origin. For me, I don't like the plat... 

If I had known I would’ve got the manual wind but now my choice is the automatic with the micro rotor and it is very expensive for a stainless steel watch… Jim

I believe the recently released Antoine De Macedo limited edition might still be available. That one might be one of my favorite LF releases to date! If ACM was based in the USA, I would've already pulled the trigger.

With all the gains in watches these day I guess one could conspired a potential loss (or miscalculation) being applied against some gains isn’t the worst thing in the World, enjoy your weekend sir…Jim