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Hi Jim, ok I will try and give you an objective view...
Jun 28, 2020,15:37 PM
I have seen and tried on a couple of these AS watches. I think they are actually amazing and from what I have read and seen, the quality and R&D are very high.
Their Pure Resonance model is a marvel from a technical standpoint as well. Since you already signed up for a FPJ Resonance, will you be wearing this AS as often once you have the FPJ Resonance 2020 model? That is one thing to consider.
Now regarding value. Difficult to be objective here as the market dictates what a watch is worth on the secondary market. Here, AS watches suffer greatly which is sad as they make great watches. I don't know your collection as well as Brandon but I do know most of it and have seen your evolution as a collector within the past 18 months from having more mainstream brands to focusing more on Independents. Looking at your other pieces from Independents, I would have to say this AS watch would be the most niche and that is even considering the Czapek Antarctique you have on order. Since demand is very low for this AS Pure Resonance, the resale will most likely suffer quite a bit. I don't know what type of discount you are receiving but if it is not a substantial one, you will most likely lose a bit of value if you ever wish to sell or trade it. As for value proposition, that is a tricky one as it would depend on how you define it. Is your sense of value based on the quality of the watch compared to the price paid or strictly monetary perception (what you pay compared to what it is worth when resold or traded)?
Of course, this all goes out the window if you truly like the watch and decide it is a keeper. If so, price become a non factor.
I will say the watch is of amazing quality and the R&D that went into the watch is right at the top. Now it just comes down to how the watch makes you feel. Sometimes the feeling you have with a watch makes it intrinsically more valuable than what it is worth monetarily. That is something you will know once you have it on.
Let us know what you decide regardless šš
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Incoming, do I go for it?
By: GreatPilot@me.com : June 28th, 2020-12:01
Hi again everyone and thanks to everyone for the help on my Armin Strom choices. I believe I have found the watch I want and wanted to post it for you comments. It is rose gold with a custom Kari white enamel solid rose gold dial. I will receive the Watch...
Yes we all say buy what you love....
By: Clueless_Collector : June 28th, 2020-12:13
But be prepared to lose another 50% of what is already discounted, sorry but itās the truth in this market and for me as a worker bee, I cannot justify love with the loss, should one day I need to trade it. Good for you if you can stomach it....itās a gre...
Clueless :-)
By: GreatPilot@me.com : June 28th, 2020-14:20
Great input, the looks, the R&D and the resonance make me want it, I am lucky to have the chance to try it on...Jim
My opinion
By: Brandon Skinner : June 28th, 2020-12:33
Being very familiar with your collection, you have many LESS exciting watches in your collection which cost you a lot MORE money. Most of the safe purchases you made you have moved away from, trading them for far more original and creative timepieces whic...
Brandon you are wise beyond your years
By: GreatPilot@me.com : June 28th, 2020-14:21
And you know me so well, thanks for helping me become the collector I want to be, and what a great quote, I wonder where you got that from ...Jim
It's a gorgeous watch, definitely a connoisseur's piece
By: jleno : June 28th, 2020-13:03
I'm sure the value proposition is great compared to other brands, but resale might take a hit due to the low visibility of the brand. You're getting a unique complication that required significant R&D to develop, good finishing front and back, and an ...
Hi Watchonthe wrist
By: GreatPilot@me.com : June 28th, 2020-14:25
If I like what I see I would not sell the watch anytime soon, thanks for the encouragement...Jim
As always thank you Fab
By: GreatPilot@me.com : June 28th, 2020-14:26
And great advice, visually the watch has āclickedā with me already, Tuesday will be the test and I will let you all know what I decide...Jim
Careful, fellow collector
By: Mostel : June 28th, 2020-14:15
Armin Strom, just be verrrry certain you LOVE this watch or any by AS.... otherwise yes, own what you love. But if this is a 'maybe' in your mind or a choice based on a moment's passion, I would advise, wait 2-4 weeks... Just let it simmer... be SURE you ...
Great comments Mostel
By: GreatPilot@me.com : June 28th, 2020-14:32
And right on the money, I think my awareness of everything said on this post is in the back of my mind but it certainly helps to have a dose of reality. Honest crudeness is a good communication too and it appreciate your input. I have gotten a better idea...
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By: amanico : June 28th, 2020-22:09
With utmost respect Nico
By: Mostel : June 28th, 2020-15:41
Not almost every watch from every brand will suffer the resale that AS will... it is specific advice... with that said, yes, true, most every watch from every brand will suffer 30%-60% loss resale... (except for the ONES everyone is searching for) but an ...
A nice way to say
By: GreatPilot@me.com : June 28th, 2020-16:53
A nice way to say this watch Brand has some potential and we donāt know whatās going to happen down the road, thank you Mostelā¦ Jim
It would be a red flag for me
By: matto1 : June 28th, 2020-15:08
if the dealer was offering a big discount on these new pieces. Most of the (widely considered) top independents like, Kari V, Gronefeld, V Halter, Lang & Heyne, G Forsey, Rexhepi, etc don't seem to offer much, if any, discounts on their new pieces. Th...
Absolutely correct
By: GreatPilot@me.com : June 28th, 2020-16:51
Absolutely correct! A large discount does raise a red flag and that has to be considered regardless of what some think on this site. Unless youāre filthy rich value must be discussed in someway to make objective decisions. On this watch, by Tuesday I will...
Hi Jim, ok I will try and give you an objective view...
By: holdemchamp1225 : June 28th, 2020-15:37
I have seen and tried on a couple of these AS watches. I think they are actually amazing and from what I have read and seen, the quality and R&D are very high. Their Pure Resonance model is a marvel from a technical standpoint as well. Since you already s...
Thank you Justin, very good observations
By: GreatPilot@me.com : June 28th, 2020-16:45
Thank you Justin, very good observations. Getting the FPJ certainly has an effect on what I may do. This AS is a very different watch. Really me loving it is worth more than its ultimate value later on and although the next comment is about not talking ab...
It is definitely a watch with a strong personality
By: Mike H : June 28th, 2020-15:39
and taste is a very personal thing so I will not comment on the beauty of the watch. It obviously appeals a lot to you and that is the most important thing. As for the notoriety of the brand it is obviously a very niche brand so the market for such a bran...
Thank you Mike
By: GreatPilot@me.com : June 28th, 2020-16:48
Thank you Mike, I think youāre telling me āenough saidā . I know it is taboo to talk about pricing and values too much on this website and I do try my best to walk that line carefully. I do have a lot of input and I am satisfied I will make a great decisi...
Great observation Jay
By: GreatPilot@me.com : June 29th, 2020-11:18
in fact I was originally going to buy the stainless steel with a blue dial but when I saw this rose gold one with the white enamel I felt exactly what you said, the white enamel was much warmer. After much research and looking at the pictures of the watch...
Certainly a stunning watch
By: jmpTT : June 29th, 2020-05:06
I wonāt rehash the resale issues. Prefer the dial of this watch to the Journe Resonance. However, my knowledge of resonance movements is insufficient to objectively consider the merits of Armin Stromās clutch spring vs. Journeās spring-free approach. The ...
Thanks JMP
By: GreatPilot@me.com : June 29th, 2020-11:14
I love strong and opposite opinions and because Iām like that I want to apologize to other purists for my comments about value that in hindsight I know could have been better phrased, Especially my comment on getting a āconsiderable discountā that was ina...
