Independents

FB just released this new model. A more traditional round case shape, but still the same size as the previous models at 44mm wide and 14mm thick. The dial is enamel. Something very odd, there are two constant force devices here, a fusee and chain paired w...  

I am more attracted to the black dial but that's a gorgeous back too. 👍

I have to read more but this looks like a simple remontoire. Would have been a great opportunity to remove the tourbillion and move to a more reasonable price level.

I think they should have at least removed the fusee+chain and sized down the case drastically, then price somewhere between 50k-100k depending on what's inside.

Two torque stabilizing solutions in one watch. Does it make sense? I am not sure. The fusee helps increase power reserve because you can utilize the initial supply. Like managing the surge in wind power. With modern springs nothing much going on in the mi... 

Agree with you on that .

...cases, hands, movements... And I might be able to afford one, but PLEASE make them smaller. I could pull off a big watch but I don't want to. 40mm or less and 12mm or less please, then we can talk : )

..I might be able to swing 'A' FB, but probably not this one.

Which would you choose between the two? ...  

...and for some reason I really like the FB cases, especially the eight-sided ones. I can excuse the size to a certain extent if the case material is light (titanium, carbon fiber, etc.) but in gold of platinum these large watches must be very heavy.

But sadly, it's even larger than the FB. Almost certainly unwearable for everyone without huge arms.

To me, this provides both but with a stealth factor that’s missing in Greubel Forsey and upper echelon Journe.

A big plus that FB's watches look interesting, but don't call so much attention to themselves that I'd be afraid to wear one in public.

I remember a discussion I had with some of the JLC watchmakers, and they told me that it was all about fine setting of the balance wheel. For example, in 2009, at the Chronometry contest, JLC trusted the first two places. The Master Tourbillon won, and th... 

They often don't work as intended. Very cool that JLC's tourbillons actually provide an advantage!

very beautiful

I agree and would love to see a simpler/cheaper FB but I enjoy that they are developing more passion oriented rather than business oriented which is rare these days. Imagine if they trickle down some of FB's tech/finishing know-how to Chopard, that would ... 

pretty cool nonetheless. Not the kind of watch most could purchase or wear, but with so few being produced, it was always going to be something most of us would enjoy in pictures. Darren

The people at FB and Chopard really know how to make watches!

I think the brand would be much more impressive if they could also make an interesting watch at 1/10 of the price. I'm not saying there is no place for going all-out technically, but I'm sure Picasso could make compelling artwork with just a pencil and a ... 

A number of independents such as Laurent Ferrier, Gronefeld, and Cristophe Claret started with more complicated pieces and later released less expensive time-only watches. That being said, I'd doubt they would go under 50k for a simple watch assuming the ... 

...keep it at a reasonable size with some dial variations and it would be really tempting.

Link here

Use a fusee and chain + remontoire?

There are at least a few I know with fusee and chain + tourbillon though.

NT