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The LF for me - although they are both LF, in a way, since he was still there when 5101 was released…..
I prefer the shape, the winding, the hands - although the 5101 mechanism is impressive, visually I find the mechanism far more engaging on the LF.
Also not a fan of the writing on the dial - but this applies to both references, so it’s a bit of a draw for me (the Patek would look far cleaner without both “10 Days” and “Tourbillon”, although it is more coherently done as labels for the two subdials, effectively - while the writing on the LF is pointless). At least the LF writing is in a subtle grey…
Which one would you choose?
Very tough choice: Laurent Ferrier Classic Tourbillon Double Spiral with White enamel Grand Feu dial ref. LCF001.02.R5.E10 powered by calibre LF619.01 (3Hz, 23 jewels, 80 hours power reserve) vs Patek Philippe Ref. 5101R-001 powered by calibre TO 28-20 RE...
The only sad thing is that the 51.7 mm lug-to-lug
would probably be too long for my wrist. Best, Emmanuel
I've seen one in person but didn't try it on...
...I have a 7.25" wrist so maybe I'd have a chance. It has everything I love...a great case with a shaped movement, and the tourbillon only visible from the back.
Both are beautiful but
if I had to choose, the Patek. That art deco case is irresistible!
Too hard!
The Patek dial looks better to me. And I adore Art Deco. But the watch itself is so long that it looks oversized on my wrist. The 5124G with salmon dial and the 5124J with the white dial look so good on my wrist - should've bought those! The LF fits well ...
When I tried side by side the 5124 and the 5100,
I personally preferred the 5100. But I think the 5101 would probably have an excessive lug-to-lug for my wrist. Like you, I’m not fond of the writing on the dial of the LF. But the movement is wonderful and I suspect that the winding experience is greater...
Yes! The haptics on the winding experience is definitely better on the LF!
LF really makes a delightful timepiece.
That's what I thought.
Even the Micro-Rotor is a pleasure to wind. In fact I wish it was hand-wound. Whereas I was disappointed by the winding experience of the PP ref. 5100: far from being the greatest I've experienced.
The Patek became its a Patek, but
I really prefer round watches over rectangular watches
I can understand that, of course.
But my experience with the 5098 is so strong that I really feel attracted to the case of the 5101. I’ve never seen it in real life, though. Best, Emmanuel
I look at you 5098 a little differently.
It’s not exactly a straight rectangle in my opinion. The curved sides totally changes the look in my opinion. I actually love that model👍
Your completely right: the shape is very different
and it fits my smallish 16 cm wrist very well, whereas the 51.7 mm lug-to-lug of the 5101 would probably be too long for me…
Impossible "Choice"!
Both are gorgeous examples, and incomparable imo. And I'm not even a tourby fan 😉
I agree that it’s an “impossible” choice.
And I would add that, luckily, it’s a choice I don’t have to make as these watches are out of my reach, at least now. Best, Emmanuel
Yes, this Art Deco case is so stylish.
But it might be too long (lug-to-lug) for my wrist, though. Best, Emmanuel
No slouch indeed!
The Art Deco case of the 5101 is just so characterful. Best, Emmanuel
That’s the spirit!
To choose is to forsake and why would one want to do that? Best, Emmanuel
Ferrier
As much as I love the 5101, it's difficult to wear without a large wrist. They only appear to be of similar size when photographed together; ergonomics of a long rectangular case put it out of reach for many. Best, Tim
Thank you for your insight, Tim.
I find it unfortunate that the rectangular case of the 5101 is too long for most wrists because, design wise, it is so full of charm. But the LF is really great too. Best, Emmanuel
Tough quattro.
To wear regularly, the LF. The PP shaped 10-day movement is incredible, but perhaps too big for me.
I’m afraid it would be too big for me too.
And I regret it because I find this shaped case full of charm (and, thanks to the 5098P, I know how incredibly pleasing wearing a shaped case can be). But the LF is great too in its own way. Best, Emmanuel
That’s how I feel too, but I would have to take into account
the fact that the case of the 5101 is most probably too long for my wrist, unfortunately. Best, Emmanuel
The LF for me - although they are both LF, in a way, since he was still there when 5101 was released…..
I prefer the shape, the winding, the hands - although the 5101 mechanism is impressive, visually I find the mechanism far more engaging on the LF. Also not a fan of the writing on the dial - but this applies to both references, so it’s a bit of a draw for...
I completely agree with you concerning the writing on both watches.
I also understand your preference for the LF very well. I just find shaped watches very attractive, but the 5101 is probably far too long lug-to-lug (51.7 mm) for my wrist. Best, Emmanuel
In this comparo I would go with the Patek but…
for me, the LF Sport line is the way to go…my ultimate grail…you’re killing me George🤨🥹
Why would you choose the Patek if you like the LF movement ?
Just trying to understand your choice. I’m personally not into sports watches, so I prefer this Classic Tourbillon with traditional finishing instead of the modern ruthenium finishing of the Grand Sport Tourbillon. But it’s just my taste and I fully under...
So (very) interesting question …
My interest in haute (with the exception perhaps of MB&F) is experiential. The zeitgeist of LF is more interesting to me than the classical legacy of Patek… ...
I certainly understand that!
And the particular Grand Sport you are showing looks great. Being personally fond of traditional horology, I wish I could pull off the 5101, but it's probably too long (51.7 mm) for my wrist. Best, Emmanuel
I understand your preference.
The design of the 5101 is strong and a bit massive, very different from the smooth pebble case of the LF. Best, Emmanuel
Patek for me based on the case, dial, complications, and history.
But both are phenomenal and anyone would be very lucky indeed to own.
I’m in the minority here but I love the LF tourbillion.
It’s just pure class IMO. ...
I would choose
the Patek for case and dial design but the Laurent Ferrier for wearability because the Patek is actually too long for most wrists. Movement wise, they tie in my opinion.
Yes, wonderful case and design!
But the 51.7 mm lug-to-lug would be too long for my wrist I’m afraid. Best, Emmanuel
WOW! That’s a magnificent question. Short answer is: 5101.
Of course both watches are beautiful. I myself had the similar dilemma and I strongly think 5101 is a more interesting option. 1) Shape. I suppose the rectangular shape is more interesting than a round one? Why? I suppose that you have at least several ro...
Thank you so much for this detailed answer!
I love your passion and, like you, I really like the 5101 a lot. The only thing is that the 51.7 mm lug-to-lug is probably too long for my wrist. I really hope I'll be able to try one on someday. Thanks again. Best, Emmanuel
It’s always a pleasure to talk great watches.
Do you happen to know the current market for 5101?
There are currently 18 examples for sale on C24,
including 10 platinum, but only 5 with box and papers (none in the EU).
Funny story is that a lot of these watches are without papers. How can one loose the papers to $250k watch?
By the way, what option do you like the best? For me it is the white gold version as it is “quiet”. Then the rose gold on a gray strap - looks very festive. I haven’t seen in person the platinum and the yellow gold ones. Judging by the photos the yellow g...
I would personally choose the platinum without hesitation.
Not only do I think such an "end-game" watch deserves the most prestigious of metals, but more importantly, the platinum version is the only one produced before 2009, with a movement bearing the Geneva Seal and not the Patek Philippe seal. And this would ...
Same for me.
But, sadly, I think the LF would fit my wrist better than the 5101. At least, I wonder how the 51.7 mm lug-to-lug would feel on my smallish 16 cm wrist... Best, Emmanuel
Have you had the chance to try one on?
I wonder if my 16 cm wrist would pull off the 51.7 mm lug-to-lug...
Well, then just say yes! ;-)
Agreed concerning the unnecessary writing on the dial... Best, Emmanuel
So am I !
I'm just not sure if I could pull off the 51.7 mm lug-to-lug of the 5101. Best, Emmanuel
This poll is closed with PP being a winner.
Though I guess the result would differ if we all could try on both watches first. I have a suggestion for another poll. Let's run this LF vs GP 99800, beautifully captured by Nico on these two pictures. Thx. PS. This GP is 38mm wide, though the dial is sm...
This one I would put face to face with LF with dial-side tourbillon.
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An LF/GP Tourbillon poll is a good idea: thank you!
I'll try to arrange the photos side by side. Best, Emmanuel
I agree. I hope to be able to try it on someday
to check if I can pull it off or not! Best, Emmanuel