patrick_y
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Get a safe from a safe manufacturer...
The luxury safes area really nice, but they're shockingly expensive. I would like to do a review about a safe, but I find that I'm not an expert in safes, so I might not be qualified. However, with the non-professional knowledge I do have; I would highly advise you to get a big, tall, heavy safe. At least TL-15 rated by Underwriters Laboratory. A TRTL 30 x 6 would be very nice. TL means tool resistant. TRTL means torch and tool resistant. 15 or 30 means number of minutes of resistance by a team of experienced safe crackers. the "x6" means on all six sides. The highest level safe I've ever seen was a TRTL 60x6. Insurance companies generally like to see at least a TL-15. Safes used by banks, jewelers, are typically very good, not too expensive (several thousand Euros), reliable, and extremely resistant. The fancy are not used by banks, have a very wide range of resistance, they're smaller, and therefore not great in some ways. It has to be bolted to the floor. If it's tall and skinny, you have to prevent it from being toppled over, because once it's toppled over the burglar has more ways to attack the safe. A typical burglar cannot get into a TL-15 safe, to crack a TL-15 safe one has to be a specialist with some special knowledge.
WatchProSite Review: The Best Watch Winder, The Swiss Kubik Watch Winder Box
Watch winders have become necessities for watch collectors like us. But not all watch winders are made the same. And sometimes buying an expensive one isn’t the best solution. Some watch collectors, despite their experience, don’t realize what their watch...
I concur
I have three of them and they absolutely great. The batteries last quite a long time too. Although they are quite pricey, they are a high quality product.
Is an IWC sitting in one of them?
I have an IWC sitting in a Scatola Del Tempo. Fortunately this IWC isn't picky about which way it turns, so the Scatola Del Tempo (this model has to turn both CCW and CW, I can only set how many turns a day from 600, 800, 1000, 1200, 1400 increments) meet...
Superb review Patrick!
I shall definitely consider one when I buy my next winder. I currently use a Bernard Favre which has been my best ever winder.
How do you like your Bernard Favre winder?
How long have you had it? Is it reliable? Does it go through too many batteries? I definitely like the look of them!
Hi Patrick
The Bernard Favre winder is a 3 dimensional winder as you know and works on a built in rechargeable battery. One charge allows the winder to work for 3 to 4 months. There are 16 different programmes to choose from so enough to cater for all watches. I hav...
Definitely very impressive!
Thanks for sharing the details with us! Five years is definitely a long enough time for problems to emerge. Glad that there haven't been any issues.
Thank you Patrick!
I bought the winder for the beauty of it but I have been impressed by the rechargeable battery life and its silent operation. My dream is to buy another two for my incoming 5212A and 5711A. Placing all three together would be quite a sight to behold
I am a fan of watchwinder and have BZ, Wolf and others.
My only the Swiss Kubik is that in thus day and age wouldnt it make more sense to use bluetooth versus the usb connector? Even PP uses that on it's current wonders. The other shirt coming and please correct me if I am wrong is that I like a delayed start...
Not sure...
What's the difference between the watch staying on your wrist and continuing to wind on the winder? I don't see a benefit to having a delayed start as you suggest.
The theory being that it gives the watch a chance to run down and then up
Again versus being fully wound and then going for 900TPD
That is a nice feature.
I want to say a BZ I had, had that delay start feature. But it's not with me right now so I can't check. I haven't seen the winders Patek Philippe currently offers, so I didn't know that there was a bluetooth mechanism. This is definitely a good idea and ...
Just checked
Just took quick look at their website: nowadays versions also come with Bluetooth
Bingo!
I knew there was an app, so I knew it was coming. I just didn't know if it was public yet.
For the traveller that has everything the Travelbox
Looks like a fantastic toy to get!!!
Have one
I once received a Kubik winder that is branded Vacheron. It’s exactly the same as on this picture and i5 works indeed like clockwork I used it for my Vacheron Harmony Calendar: it fits perfectly in the safe so even when stored my watch remains wound and I...
Definitely trying to find fault and be critical!
The SwissKubik I've experienced definitely has a bit of a snap when removing the watch. But it's not a big problem. Yeah, I love the straight up part. Something so small and simple, yet such a nice tough to have!
I have to try it
But for me the best is to have two BZ Vantage (2 pieces), so far I only have one. However, I think that the Swis Kubik will be a good option when going on holidays.
SwissKubik as official supplier to most all high-end brands
SwissKubik is the winder supplier to Rolex, AP, Omega, JLC, Tag Heuer, and so many other brands. Their movements are bulletproof and guaranteed for 3 years. Most importantly, they do not magnetize the watches they preciously keep.
The BZ Vantage is a very nice model!
Speaking from experience, I do like my BZ Vantage. But it's large and expensive. It doesn't travel well. It's heavy. It won't fit in the bank's safe. Definitely a nice piece for your own home closet though! And I do think the BZ uses more batteries than o...
I use the BZ safemaster as its easy at home
And relocate to bank mo issue. I am just not a fan of the fact that it works on modules so each rotor does have independent function
And bizarrely all the functions are on top of the.module so you cant change them
Without pulling it out the safe. Wolf I think have generally git it right from a value and functionality perspective
Travel Winder...
Stay tuned, SwissKubiK may just have a surprise for you and all watch aficionados for this holidays...
Curious
You’re making me curious? I’m about to invest in a true proper luxury safe. Haven’t decided yet if I select built in winders or buy winders separately that fit in the safe. Hence you’re “hint/suggestion” could be important to me
Get a safe from a safe manufacturer...
The luxury safes area really nice, but they're shockingly expensive. I would like to do a review about a safe, but I find that I'm not an expert in safes, so I might not be qualified. However, with the non-professional knowledge I do have; I would highly ...
Thanks
Your views are much appreciated I’ve done a lot of homework and learned 3 things: 1) luxury safes are indeed ridiculous expensive but seldom ly offering adequate protection 2) many, many manufacturers shout they are burglary and fire protection and list r...
Best comment I heard was from fellow
Forum member Ed whi said that the safes are so expensive that even if it was stolen empty, you still weep!!
Brands are fine...
I recommend a brand called ISM. Israeli made. Very high quality. Considered as a "Rolex" level safe. In the USA, the popular brand here is called "AMSEC" or American Security. Another high quality "Cadillac" level of safe. Both of these companies have the...
Thanks Patrick. Great review!
I appreciate your thoughts. I no longer use a winder as my collection is small and I keep them at the bank. But I like these little cubes, very attractive and most importantly they seem highly programmable. Kudos to the designers.