Finishing is much more subjective; staring with Geneva Seal

Jul 18, 2019,15:36 PM
 

The GENEVA SEAL

We give you the 12 criteria, reminding also that it must be created in the Canton of Geneva:

Compliance with the standards outlined by the Office for the Optional Inspection of Genevan Watches must include the quality of all parts and components of the movement including those used in auxiliary mechanisms. If the watch passes, the Geneva Seal is punched on the on the main plate and one of the bridges. The site varies according to the caliber.

1 All steel parts of the movement must display polished angles, sides parallel file strokes, visible face smoothed and polished. All screw heads must either be polished or circular grained. (This type of finishing reduces friction ensuring no metal filings effect the movement)

2 Movements must be fitted on the going train with ruby jewels in polished holes. On the side of the bridge, the ruby jewels must be semi-mirror-polished. In addition their sinks must be polished. (This ensures that the lubricating oil will spread more evenly increasing the longevity of parts and components.)

3 A sliding stud cap with a round head and neck must secure the balance spring. (This particular condition creates a huge challenge for the watchmaker; however, it does improve the centering of the balance spring and thus improving the adjustment.

4 Fitted or split regulators utilizing a fastening system is required. (This condition prevents the shifting of the index assembly in the event of jarring and thus eradicating any impact on the adjustment of the movement)

5 Geartrain wheels must be beveled on their upper and lower sides and feature polished sinks. If the wheels are 0.15 mm or less in thickness , one-sided (bridge side) bevelling is accepted. (Durableness is increased)

6 Pinion shanks and faces must be polished. (Providing a marked reduction of friction within the movement and protect it against stray filings which may effect the longevity of the movement.)

7 The escape wheel must be lightweight. Larger wheels must be no more than 0.16 mm thick and 0.13 mm for wheels less than 18 mm across. The locking faces must be polished.

8 The ratchet wheel and crown wheel must be finished according to the prescribed models. (Only a select handful of watchmakers today are able to meet this condition.)

9 The use of wire springs are prohibited.

10 It is imperative that the lever's angle of travel must be contained by solid banking, excluding pins or studs.

11 Shock absorbers on movements are acceptable.

12 Regulating systems using a balance wheel with variable radius of rotation are acceptable.

Some of these are philosophical and preclude adventurous watchmakers from trying new things.

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Thoughts on certifications?

 
 By: jleno : July 17th, 2019-21:29
I'm curious what the general opinions on certifications are aside from COSC. Geneva seal, Patek seal, Qualite Fleurier, JLC 1000 hours, etc...Who's got the most stringent? Do they differ in any interesting ways? Or are they all just BS? added image for in...  

What I like about COSC—and Omega’s METAS—testing is that they refer to a quantitative performance metric that’s highly relevant to me: the watch’s ability to keep accurate time.

 
 By: ektaylor : July 18th, 2019-03:47
The other metrics are concerned with levels of finishing (Geneva seal) or general functionality (JLC 1000 hrs). So they really all mean very different things.

Agree that chronometry certifications are generally useful

 
 By: jleno : July 18th, 2019-14:07
I'm quite surprised that so many high end watches come with no accuracy specifications whatsoever. Especially ones with chronometry complications like torbillons.

Certifications are intended to demonstrate facts...

 
 By: rdenney : July 18th, 2019-04:51
...and not judgments. They mean that the thing being certified has been specifically verified to be true by the certifier. As such, evidence is required to support the fact. Thus, “our watches are great because we are great” certifications are rather vacu... 

Testing to the Grand Seiko standard

 
 By: cazalea : July 18th, 2019-08:34
I have been to a number of Swiss workshops including V-C, JLC, BP, PP, Fleurier, etc. Everyone tests their watches to some degree - though JLC explains their Master Control 1000 hr test as one of the best. I have the best pictures to share with you from m...  

Thanks for your writeup!

 
 By: jleno : July 18th, 2019-14:02
Fascinating to see how much testing goes into a Grand Seiko! From your visits to other manufacturers, were there any other notable qualities of the certifications or testing processes across brands? I'm particularly interested in better understanding the ... 

Finishing is much more subjective; staring with Geneva Seal

 
 By: cazalea : July 18th, 2019-15:36
The GENEVA SEAL We give you the 12 criteria, reminding also that it must be created in the Canton of Geneva: Compliance with the standards outlined by the Office for the Optional Inspection of Genevan Watches must include the quality of all parts and comp... 

Fleurier Quality

 
 By: cazalea : July 18th, 2019-15:46
Rules for obtaining the FQF Quality seal The "QUALITE FLEURIER" quality label applies to mechanical watches and finished watches, whether or not these form part of an item of jewellery, that are produced in series in Switzerland. To be awarded the "QUALIT... 

Omega METAS

 
 By: cazalea : July 18th, 2019-16:08
DOUBLE CERTIFICATION: METAS AND COSC To own a MASTER CHRONOMETER is to be confident that your watch has been certified not once – but twice! The 8 stringent METAS tests your timepiece must face to earn the title MASTER CHRONOMETER can only begin with move...