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Date change ...
So that's the Horor part of Hororgasm?!
The internet chatter on the date wheel issue was that it was due to an excess of lubricant and possibly some over tightening of a component of the date mechanism. The precise details were never made clear from Montres Journe, but the problem was supposed to have been rectified. It is disappointing that your watch had to be returned more than once to repair this issue. My RdM has gone around a full month cycle and all is OK.
The dial oxidation issue I understood occurred with the first batch of dials produced. Some accept this as part of the personality of the watch. Personally it would annoy me. So far so good with my example, but it was something I considered when making the commitment to the watch.
We all recognize that these issues happen, particularly with low-volume, hand-made pieces, but what is most important to me is how well a company stands behind their products and repairs what needs to be done. I have heard the same stories as you, but in reality I have no idea what proportion of Journe watches require repair, under warranty or not.
There is much to love about the designs and functions and so far technical problems have not dented my ownership experience. Crossing my fingers that this will continue, as I would dearly love to commit to a Journe Tourbillon one day.
Andrew
Small Steps … My Journe Journey
I credit François-Paul Journe with my interest in ‘modern’ horology. Seven years ago I picked up a watch magazine while transiting Singapore airport and sat on the plane mesmerised by pictures of the Tourbillon Souverain. Daydreaming about that watch cert...
Don't call me names ...
Hi Amery, Here is an earlier thread where we tried to work out what to call ourselves . Interestingly, horological tragic wasn't meantioned, but I am happy to take credit for coining a new term, and I give you permission to use it as often as you want! A
What's in a name when taking a walk
Hi Andrew, I do prefer it to WIS. Example: "Object HT Amerix was sighted walking down the Boulevard de Paix wearing an undefinable object on his left wrist. A crowd soon formed and immediately began throwing flowers in his direction, bowing down, lighting...
can tell you really love this watch....
how long have you owned this watch? sadly, my close to 5 years ownership (of the Octa reserve in YG) experience is sadly unhappy though. i love the asethetics of the watch, and even a watch idiot like me could appreciate the beautiful movement. but, after...
Date change ...
So that's the Horor part of Hororgasm?! The internet chatter on the date wheel issue was that it was due to an excess of lubricant and possibly some over tightening of a component of the date mechanism. The precise details were never made clear from Montr...
Wise choice, Andrew.
In terms of the functions and dial layout, it is quite similar to Lange 1 Daymatic. May I have your view on comparison of these 2 watches? Regards Ling
The ALS Lange 1 Daymatic – some thoughts
Hi Ling, There are of course some similarities between the Lange 1 and the Journe designs, particularly with the offset dials. It’s interesting that while I have found the Journe pieces warm and romantic, the Lange 1 always struck me as a very clinical de...
Divine Lange 1
And while we are thinking about Golden Ratios , King Johann also turned his eye to the Lange 1. Perhaps it explains some of our emotional reactions to these watches. A...
a beautiful watch
huge congrats... makes me miss my rdm oh so much wear it in the best of health. cheers, raph
Congratulations and thanks for the interesting post
It is great to read what you have written and photographed of this beautiful watch. I can see this as a great first (and even only) FPJ watch to own. I admire the "simmplicity" of it, even thoiugh it has the trdemark features of the clasi FPJ watch. The d...
jumping in on Bach
The photo of the RdM on the CD cover is fantastic !!! A visit to the FP Journe site will tell you that KJ is in tune with the principle of resonance. Unfortunately I do not know the recording. But coming from ECM one can be sure that it will - well - also...
Not to sidetrack Andrew's wonderful post
but Amerix, I've always been curious about Gould's mumbling during the Goldberg recordings. What's the story there?
many stories about that
and how he drove his producers and recording engineers to distraction. But it was more singing than mumbling for him. Sometimes an unused hand would go floating off to conduct an invisible (and unneeded) orchestra, while he was shaping a phrase. At least ...
Talking about Bach's
Well-Tempered Clavier and Goldberg Variations, I must confess they are among my most cherished music. I am glad to find that here in this wonderful forum we are not only connected by great watches, but also by great music. My favorite WTC recordings are L...
Well-Tempered Jarrett …
Thanks Respo, You grasped exactly what I was trying to convey in my story. I will explain the Journe-Jarrett-Pplater-AndrewD connection in another post, but for a quick comment on Keith Jarrett’s interpretation of J.S.Bach’s Well-Tempered Clavier I would ...
I am going to give both Jarrett and Gould a listen
I liked the link to the photo of the Hofstadter book from your earlier thread. I read that extraordinary work many, many years ago. That is also probably worht a re-read. Best, respo
Worth a re-read while listening to Bach ...
I like to dip back in to my favorite parts, particularly with Bach playing in the background. And you have given me an idea for an M.C. Escher thread on Time Out this weekend! Andrew
The Jarrett Connection …
Many of you will know that there is a link between Keith Jarrett and the Journe Resonance . Pplater and I are both Jarrett fans, and have been known to be independently listening to the same piece of music on opposite sides of the continent at the same ti...
Talking about Keith Jarrett
I love his music. Last year I went to his concert where he played with Gary Peacock and Jack DeJohnette. It's so wonderful. I also admire his great taste as shown in his watch collection. I still have the catalog of a 2006 Antiquorum auction in which more...
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"Aw, shucks..." Just working through your [sensational!] post now, as a quick lunchtime distraction, and of course the pictorial Jarrett reference leapt off the page. Nice touch, Andrew, and thanks for the gesture - it's 'off to the pool room' with that o...
Good read and nice pics!
Thanks Andrew for this post and congratulations on a beautiful Octa RDM. The brown stitching on the strap goes very well with the gold dial. Do keep us updated as your FPJ quest continues!
Journe Watches are truly special
Very well done story. Journe's watches are magnificent. Jeff
There's something about Journe...
My husband's modern horologic journey began with Journe as well. Walking through the small shop in Switzerland, the Journe watches definitely commanded attention, especially the tourbillon. We heard the story and learned about the movement from a very pat...
Feeling
Hi Ping, Thanks for your story and comments. You have cut right to the centre of my love for Journe timepieces. When most other decisions I make about watches are made rather intellectually (from the 'head' if you like), Journe watches reach an emotional ...
Nothing is wrong with those kind of basics ...
and sometimes it is the best you can get. It shows a lot of the fantastic FPJ DNA and doesn´t cost a fortune. Even better YOU like it Your choice is very nice and I really appreciated to read your journey. Congrats! Oliver
Wonderful post
Sometimes you see a watch and it's just a watch, but then you hear a story like yours and a relationship develops and it's not just any watch but something special. It reminds me a bit of an excerpt from some recent bed-time reading for the children; Anto...
Great quotation
That's a wonderful and very appropriate quotation, Nomer, and I appreciate the sentiment very much. There are thousands of watches out there, many of them very nice watches, but finding the right watch for 'you' is a rare thing. Andrew
" . . . but finding the right watch . . .
. . . for you is a rare thing." Everyone reading these words is nodding in assent. Could "resonance" have a metaphysical meaning in addition to the physical? Is there a subjectively "perfect" watch? Topics for further discussion . . . cordially, Art
On your last picture ...
You summarized all. Classic but not Gothic. Enjoy your Journe. Cheers, Nilo
Thanks Nilo ...
Journe manages to channel traditional watchmaking and gothic sensibilities with a modern twist. Someone long ago described the designs as "retro-futuristic", which I tend to agree with. Jules Verne meets particle physicist? A
Divine proportion …
Luca Pacioli (1446-1517) wrote “ De Divina Proportione ”, published in Venice in 1509, to explain the mathematical concept of Golden Ratios* (aka Divine Proportions, Golden Proportions, Golden Numbers) and their relationship to art and nature and forms th...
King Johann's great illustration pictures
of Octa RDM and Lange 1 have been my references as well. I am a big fan of Lange and Journe. In fact, these are the two modern watch brands (some other very "small" independents aside) that I like the most. Since I found them, I always tend to relate thes...
Thanks for sharing this nice story...
and nice pictures too. This version of PT with yellow dial and brass mvmt is very beautiful. Best, Goh
Espresso crema …
The Journe YG dial takes on different personalities under different lighting conditions. Sometimes it’s matt, other times granular, and it varies from bright and shiny to rich and dark. Just as I like my espresso. This particular bag of Intelligentsia Bla...
Andrew, I love it!
Coincidentally, I made a latte for my wife this morning and pulled a shot for myself with Black Cat. And I am likely to be at Intelligentsia tomorrow, as I am playing hookey from work to spend the day with a friend from college who is coming into town for...
The Numerology of Journe
The funny thing I realised later was that I committed to buying my first F.P.Journe watch precisely on François-Paul’s 53 rd birthday. And the watch arrived at my home on the 22 nd (it had only been in the house a few minutes and I was taking p...
Wonderful post and congrats on the beautiful Octa RDM
To my eyes, the Octa RDM, along with Resonance and Tourbillon Souverain (especially in PT with YG dial for all three) are the classic trio of Journe. I must confess that at the beginning I didn't quite like Octa RDM as I felt too much emptiness on the dia...
Nice story, nice watch, nice music . . . nice sleeves.
This is the post that has it all!
Andrew, what a marvellous report you have crafted regarding..
Your new and lovely looking Journe as your photos clearly demonstrate. But not have you succeeded with your thread. It has greatly increased my knowledge of classical music. Something that I didn't realise would happen when I first started to read your th...
The Calendrier ...
Thanks Topcat, pleased you enjoyed my ramblings. I tried to bring a lot of technical information into the review as well. It's useful to have a reference for such knowledge in the future. The Calendrier was the other Journe that I have come close to getti...
My Antipodal Brother
At this point drawing out the points of agreement seems silly, so I'll simply add that I hadn't worn my Journe in several weeks due to the weather, but had just put it on and gotten to my office when I saw this post. On the other hand, putting milk in cof...
More resonance ...
Hi Aaron, I have been wearing it daily for the last few weeks, and pleased that we can share the enjoyment of these watches across the world. It sounds like this thread has encouraged a few others to strap on their Journe's too. If it's not too politicall...
Apparently I'm a Kiwi
Since I like my coffee as "All Blacks" Something about the affect of milk/cream on coffee i dislike. For me it's usually a mug from the french press in the AM, and if I want something while at work, I have an aeropress, which works surprisingly well, and ...
Thanks SJX ...
There are very few modern/new watch companies that take such strong historical cues (helping us to feel immediately comfortable) and combine them with a modern but unique design palette. I particularly love Journe for that reason, amongst many. Andrew
Inspirational Journe
Congratulations on an excellent choice and wonderful addition. I love the whimsical "lego" photos and symbolic choice of CD cover! I haven't spent much time on the forums recently and yours post gives me good reason to return!
Thanks Brad ...
Pleased you liked my first Journe, one of many I hope, and a nice place to start. The Journe Forum and the enthusiasm of yourself and other collectors certainly fed my desire over a number of years. Great to finally join the club. Hope to read much more f...
I am late to the party...
...but enjoyed reading this post very much. The watch was gorgeous to see in person while you were visiting, and looking at the photos brings back good memories of your sojourn in LA. I love this FPJ and it remains high on my wishlist of pieces from Journ...
Never too late, Daos ...
That trip was the first time I had worn the Journe for an extended period, so I also associate the LA visit with this watch. Pleased you liked it. Here's a shot from Intelligentsia to bring back memories:...
That was such a fun outing! :-)
I still get the giggles every time I picture you smelling, tasting your espresso. Very serious...just like wine tasting! LOL! Love it! Daos
Pity Jed couldn't join us
And the coffee was very good, particularly the espresso / short black. Andrew
It is stunning!
Andrew, What a wonderful watch to crown your passion in watchmaking. With all respect, specs aside, the thing I enjoyed the most (and to which I must thank you for sharing it with me) is the way you aquired it, and how it waited for you in the hands of on...
Still smiling ...
Hi Alex, Pleased you found this thread. You were one of the first to see the Journe and it looked good on your wrist too! And yes, I haven't stopped smiling yet. In fact I have become a bit of a horological 'boring old f*rt' because I wear it for the majo...