Bill
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Box and Papers
The value of box and papers varies to many of us. For Rolex collectors it can increase the value / cost by 20% or more. For other brands you are looking at completeness of the package and the expected care the previous owner exercised over the watch.
But ultimately it the provenance. When was the watch born and where. Was the watch sold through an AD with appropriate warranty stamps and such. For Rolex is everything matching in a way to complete the story and authenticity of the watch. All these elements have varying degrees of importance.
For an anticlimactic example of Box and Papers see my Marathon. But at least in the spirit of completeness when know the application of the watch and stamped on the case back the date of birth. Ok OK but I was excited to get a complete set from 1986. They even mentioned life expectancy 5-10 years.
Marathon circa 1986. Desert storm style
Marathon. Part of my Benrus Type I and Type II collection.
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Box and Papers
The value of box and papers varies to many of us. For Rolex collectors it can increase the value / cost by 20% or more. For other brands you are looking at completeness of the package and the expected care the previous owner exercised over the watch. But ...
Yes, same case than the Benrus Type I and II. Nice find, Bill.
As for the box and papers, it is indeed a nice extra, but not something which would make me go or pass on a watch. Cake first, cherry after. Best, Nicolas
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Good post, Bill.
B&P are very important to me. I have passed on many (probably) great deals because they were not available. Not saying I'm right.
Some time they are essential.
Other times nice to have. But given the opportunity to pick papers over none papers trump. But if i really need a model or liove one i will try to validate using other methods than papers. But a crappy example with papers is less tempting unless it truely...
I mostly buy new
but in case a specific watch I want is available only in 2nd hand, then papers are mandatory. Furthermore, I add the complexity of finding the right watch by buying watches only with "open" papers. Finally, if I boy a 2nd hand watch, it goes directly to t...
I know that kind of feeling when you absolutely want a watch and something is wrong such as the lack of B&P for example
From my side, if it is only the box which miss, it could be ok (but it depends if the box is a special one or a common one). Regarding the papers, it is much more complicated. I think I could not buy a watch without its original papers even if it is one I...