Horological Meandering

Hi, It is something serious to ponder. If you are a customer looking for a good steel sports or casual watch then you are doomed . Rolex : Rolex Daytona , sky dweller , submariner hulk or even Gmt are not avbl as walk in and you’d have to pay silly premiu... 

Buy a new Tudor. Best, Kari

Best wishes Alkiro

nt

I agree wholeheartedly.

i wanted a 5711 because it was the only Patek I wanted I could afford. Now I can’t because of price and wait list Rolex and Patek act like they don’t want anymore European customers

In a marketplace with high interest and demand, those that have the strongest position are attempting to counter the grey market. It may work or it may back fire, only time will tell. Unfortunately the heart wants what the heart wants, but if you can get ... 

There are many worthy watches out there. Why is it that so many want stainless sport Rolexes, stainless Pateks and stainless APs...? Well, because others want them badly too, of course... Yes, those watches have merit on their own, but the desire to own t... 

Best wishes Alkiro

half those pieces mentioned were walk in and try and buy pieces, actually especially the older Nautilus the unloved fugly 3710 with the Roman numerals and the quirky power reserve; and the proper Jumbo languished in dealers at pretty much the price of a S... 

Part 1 is a basic requirement like the theory section of a driving or flying examination. Part 2 may impinge on the right of choice that is unrelated to the vagaries of fate of genetics, nature or nurture. Regards, MTF

Get creative and think outside the box.

This is no longer watch industry, it's luxury factory. Doesn't matter too much the product, you simply buy an expensive branded item. Be thankful they're so kind to accept your millions 😁😁😁😁😁😁

Hehe.... Seriously though, it is sort of crazy now, the hype and noise associated with these popular SS watches. I think a lot of the wind power is from direct and indirect marketing on social media and the visibility that these brands can get from IG and... 

J-C has Zenith back on the right path, and Seiko is reaching out to the world at large. Mike

I also have JLC and Seiko but for me Rolex is still one of the best value for money ( I've bought my Submariner 7 years ago ). I can understand the point of create rarity for one model from Rolex among the SS but not the whole range. I was in the NYC flag... 

And on the vintage Rolex side I have basically given up hunting because the prices are in a stratosphere which happened so quickly that takes the fun away.

A sad reality for many myself included. On a positive I do not really want for anything these days.... well maybe just one more 😂

nt

Watches became unattainable, unless a huge premium was paid. The Boutiques were selling to resellers and ignoring the genuine collector, admittedly some collectors with access to the Boutiques were also doing a quick flip. At that point it's a money game ... 

I think the watch industry is going "crazy" and they are banging hard on the consumers' desires and urges, but as always with time, those can fade away lol. Or stop buying watches for a while to calm the heart (which i am planning to take a break) Regards... 

1) Owning and acquiring watches as a discretionary activity should be enjoyable/fun and make one happy! 2) Watch companies have their own agendas. Rolex Company, with regard to its Rolex watch line, seems to be more interested in maintaining an image with... 

Here's a report on mine www.watchprosite.com / The MT56xx movements are solid. The only thing holding them back is Rolex themselves and some of their aesthetics. Velociphile

why does everybody(or the majority out there)have the desire for the same watches? Are they really "better "watches or are we assisting to mass of homogenised individuals following trends like sheeps? Watch collecting is about culture, discovery and passi... 

The biggest problem is the self perpetuating demand driven by a small cabal of "enthusiasts" even on our own forums here in watchprosite.. Our worse enemies are within. I've been out of touch with Audemars Piguet to know if they are playing the 'game' but... 

... and at the same time I have the feeling the effect that everyone is conditioned to want the same has never been bigger as well 🙄 If you take the main pleasure from wearing a watch that fits just you and not everyone’s taste or wish list, it’s easy to ... 

I will never pay a premium for a watch. It comes, or it doesn't. I don't care, as my list is way too long. Yes, be patient, and don't torture yourself. There are so many desirable watches out there! Best, Nicolas

Nobody forces you to buy from the brands you listed. There are so many alternatives readily available, sometimes even technically superior. Marcus

Anything better in performance and superior in materials used then the Rolex at that price range?

I agree that Rolex is setting a high reference level, regarding the quality of (simpler) movements. If you count complications, such as chronographs, or GMT mechanisms, there are many other manufacturers who concentrated on these since a long time, while ... 

There are plenty of independent brands with reasonably priced pieces. There is also a tremendous joy in working with them. You get to know the watchmaker and their philosophy. Plus, you can add some personal and unique touches to your watch. It is a funda... 

Have bought Habring, FPJ & even MB&F . But somehow now drawn towards the urge of getting a steel classic cult watch ...

Horology75, You're correct about the frustration for new collectors and those of limited means. The true test of the hypothesis is that the 'halo' effect does not last long. When you slow down or stop buying 10 watches a year, your halo loses its shine. T... 

Funny enough Rolex, Patek & even AP told me that if i buy least popular 50k-100k pieces then it would be easy to get what i desire..

manufacturers may ultimately lose as they alienate more and more customers through artificial reductions in production resulting in sky-high prices that have no relationship to the intrinsic value of the watch.

Ofcourse you have to wait also before its done but then you have a watch thats unique imo

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Now it’s a game of patience and will know dates of delivery next week ) I love the laureato and InshAllah will get that too after Iam done with this major rcvl Thanks !