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All watches "Made in Germany"

Evening folks!

Hope you all are having a fantastic monday!

Just a little help i need from you guys.

I am planning to expand my watch collection onto a theme that is "Made in Germany".

Now, of course you all could immediatly name the biggies, such as Lange, Glashutte Original, Nomos and such, but i'm thinking more of brands that is not so well known.

Preferably, i would like to be recommend brands that have movements that are in house, although I know this is rare because even guys like Lang & Heyne and Dornbluth uses ETA ebauches, even if they actually manage to modify their pieces to over 90% in house.

Recently, I have come to know of the brand "Wakmann", which is quite interesting from the little bits i have seen on their webpage. Do any of you happen to have past experience with this brand?

I would like to hear of any and every suggestion you fellows might have.

But just to make life a little easier by narrowing down the choices, could you all take into consideration that the watch needs to meet the following criteria?

1). Hand wound ONLY

2). Case diameter equal to or above 40mm

Now, i'm sure alot of you are aware that while i primarily purchase only watches encased in Platinum, right now i'm mainly looking for anything that is Made in Germany, which I am aware alot are just the standard SS, but as long as it is Made in Germany, will be fine for me.

Thanks guys, any comments and opinions are much appreciated! I just want to know more and learn more from you fellows!

Danke & tschuss!

Stephen

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Greib & Benzinger are made in Germany

By: G99 : October 12th, 2009-10:28

they use german cases and do all the work in Germany, but as the pieces are one off unique pieces the vintage movements are nearly always Swiss and handwound. best Graham

Ok, i'v gotten then info and PM

By: BluNotte : October 12th, 2009-21:30

Thank you Graham for the introduction to this brand of which I have never heard of before! Danke! Stephen

Eduard Junghans

By: gweilgi : October 12th, 2009-11:30

Junghans is a company whose product range runs from cheap quartz to solar-powered and radio-controlled watches to midprice mechanicals. They have recently launched an upmarket range called "Eduard Junghans" using movements that are (so it is claimed) deve...

Danke Alex!

By: BluNotte : October 12th, 2009-21:32

For the choices! Junghans looks and sounds interesting, the tonneu case is visually interesting, although I can see that the movement is a circular one fitted. When i was in Germany this past September, I handled the Wempe chronometers on several occasion...

Many of their movements origin from the land of the rising sun... NT

By: Ornatus-Mundi : October 12th, 2009-23:36

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Ohh, more thanks for this insight! [nt]

By: BluNotte : October 13th, 2009-08:44

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reg. wakmann

By: dalevito : October 12th, 2009-13:26

i bumped onto that website last week and I couldn't make much sense of it. there's ofcourse the historical Breitling connection and even Benno Richter seems to have something to do with it. The models though are very uninspiring.

They are not all very nice

By: BluNotte : October 12th, 2009-21:33

But i am highly interested in the carbon fiber watch! Don't you think that is one nice piece? Cheers Stephen

I'm curious..

By: dalevito : October 13th, 2009-12:18

how it'll turn out. It looks very comfortable

Will let you know when I pull on it!

By: BluNotte : October 13th, 2009-15:53

Indeed, it's appearing to be quite tempting! Cheers Stephen

Made in Germany

By: tee530 : October 12th, 2009-18:37

Hi Stephen, From the watches I've seen and the discussions I've followed, Wakmann appears to be a very recent re-emergence of a historical nameplate purchased by some entrepreneurs. They must have some access to NOS pocketwatch movements, as they offer a ...

Platinum...

By: tee530 : October 12th, 2009-18:46

...forgot to mention, Stephen, that Dornbluth has made a limited edition in Pt. Plus now there is an in-house engraved silver dial, and a fired-enamel dial as part of the lineup. Ah, the possibilities! -Tom

Wonderful insights...

By: BluNotte : October 12th, 2009-21:42

Hey there Tom! Thank you for the comments and opinions regarding this issue. I completely agree with you regarding the primary collection of Wakmann, in how they are often uninspired, but at the same time find it intriging that they can manage to acquire ...

DDS in Pt

By: tee530 : October 13th, 2009-05:49

Stephen - There was a limited edition in 2004 or thereabouts: Reference Cal. 99.2 (40) 950 PT, a limited series of 50 pieces worldwide. Same 99.2 movement as in standard model, with Platinum (950) case, matte finish Montego-Blue dial and pear shaped white...

Ok, i will look into this Tom!

By: BluNotte : October 13th, 2009-08:45

Once again, thank you for the details! Tschuss Stephen

regarding Wakman

By: donizetti : October 12th, 2009-23:14

I am currently in a project where Thorsten from Wakmann is creating a limited Edition (because there are only around 35 movements available) Flieger watch from a NOS PW movement, extensively refinished, for a German watch forum. Throughout that process he...

I believe i am looking at the same product too !

By: BluNotte : October 13th, 2009-08:46

It's the 47mm B uhren, am i correct? I am wishing to pull on this one too! I will let you all know when it is done! Cheers Stephen

yes, correct! Have fun choosing, Andreas [nt]

By: donizetti : October 14th, 2009-05:22

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Hello Stephen

By: cfdfire : October 13th, 2009-02:58

I believe there is an independent by the name of A.Mantei that is from germany,his web site is in german so I'm taking an educated quess.He takes custom orders and makes a few watches each year.Maybe this will help you add to your collection,cheerz

All ETA, I'm afraid.

By: gweilgi : October 13th, 2009-05:01

Mantei is more of a designer than a watchmaker, by the looks of it. At least his website clearly states the movement type (not all brands are so open). Alex

Jah!

By: BluNotte : October 13th, 2009-08:48

Das ist rechtig! Tschuss Stephen

yes,looks like ETA

By: cfdfire : October 13th, 2009-14:04

according to his web site.Has for being more of a designer that opinion is pretty important ,After all we do buy what others design ,Hes been a master watchmaker since 1977 so he has some time invested in this craft.Aside from movement it appears he creat...

Danke!

By: BluNotte : October 13th, 2009-08:47

For the recommendation! I just took a look at his webpage, but it seems that he houses only automatics, and i did mention in my main thread post that I dont do automatics! Nonetheless, thank you for introducing me to yet another unknown German manufacture...

My mistake Stephen

By: cfdfire : October 13th, 2009-14:15

I have been to his site a few times and though he made custom order watches.It is custom order clocks he makes.Oh well,if anything you got to see and learn about a brand that is new to you and German also, that is why i am here,to learn. Cheers,Joseph

No worries Joseph!

By: BluNotte : October 13th, 2009-15:55

That's why we are all here, to learn and to share our knowledge, even if it includes mistakes! Thank you for your input, much appreciated! Cheers Stephen

Sorry Stephen, ur the guy i turn to...

By: kkhazen : October 13th, 2009-15:52

... for help in such topics Karim

Lol Karim!

By: BluNotte : October 13th, 2009-15:56

That is an honour too great for me to accept! But well, when the time comes, i will gladly assist you in anyways that I can! Cheers Stephen

Here's a Looooong list

By: cazalea : October 14th, 2009-21:23

I have several Wakmann timepieces. This is the only one I can find a photo of at the moment; not exactly a watch but an aircraft clock. Says Swiss on it though... HERE's an exhaustive list pilfered from another blog: =============================== Lange ...

But these are only German brands, nearly all of them use Swiss movements ....

By: Marcus Hanke : October 15th, 2009-05:25

.... especially the ubiquitous ETA 2824, and - in better examples - 2892. Most of them, especially the cheaper ones, acquire cases and/or dials, hands etc. in Asia. The currently "most German" watches produced in larger series are made by Glashütte Origin...

Agreed Marcus

By: BluNotte : October 15th, 2009-05:37

But don't forget Lange too! Cheers Stephen

I didn't forget Lange, but .....

By: Marcus Hanke : October 15th, 2009-05:56

.... due to the companie's traditional, and most recently even strengthened ties with the Swiss manufacturing, Lange gets considerably more parts from Switzerland than GO. This does by no means indicate anything about the quality, but since the question w...

Oh wow , i didnt know that Marcus...

By: BluNotte : October 16th, 2009-04:03

But thank you for letting me know! This has been an issue that i'v been having with Lange ever since i went for the manufactory tour in September. Initially, i thought Lange was a brand that manufactured virtually all their components in house, until the ...

Hey, great list!

By: BluNotte : October 15th, 2009-05:36

Just what i have been looking for! Thanks! Stephen