I got electrified - short impressions of the Hyundai Ioniq 5N 🇰🇷

Nov 19, 2024,16:28 PM
 

While the previous two drives were of low and lithe two seaters (the Alpine A110 here:  www.watchprosite.com  and the Lotus Emira here:  www.watchprosite.com   ), I figured it’s time to try out electric mobility in parallel. As there’s currently no comparable vehicle on the market I decided to try out one that currently gets top reviews from the motoring press. 


As the Taycan is very unlikely to make it into our garage - the interior space simply doesn’t suffice for our family - the Hyundai Ionic 5N seemed one of the few sensible alternatives. 

The car looks a bit like a hot hatch stretched in all dimensions. Without another car to compare to next to it, it looks compact, once you see it next to other cars you see the proportions work but at something like a 120% of the size. Personally the looks work for me and it has a hint of the old Lancia Delta about it from some angles. 



While it is not that distinctive from the front (compared to the regular Ioniq 5), you definitely notice the wider rear haunches and the much more aggressive rear end. It may not be subtle but it really has the ‘1980s for the current generation’ looks down pat. 

While the design is supposed to lean on a Giugiaro concept for a Hyundai Pony Coupe from the 1970s, to me some Delta resemblance is present (and definitely not unwelcome).



Another aspect differentiating the Ioniq 5N from the standard electric cars are the large performance tires (and these are not just for show). The aggressive rubber will probably not help with the range but it certainly helps in how it moves. 



The interior is not exotic by any stretch of imagination but everything is well designed and executed. The steering wheel is conventional in shape and fortunately not too thick (in spite of the large ex-BMW team working at Hyundai, this is one of the unfortunate design elements of their former employer they luckily didn’t take over).

In addition to the standard cruise control and stereo / phone controls you get four driver focused buttons - one cycling through the driving modes, a NGB button for the short term extra boost and two N buttons, activating the N mode (more on which shortly). The main driver display also has a fun and quite practical feature of showing the dead angle as a live feed from a camera in the rear view mirror when you use the indicator. Small detail but well thought through. 



As for the rest of the interior, it’s practical rather than spectacular and the display style inductive buttons for controlling the air on are surprisingly functional (not always the case with these).



The seats are both comfortable and offer the necessary grip to keep you in place during more vigorous cornering. I wish those in the Emira were as good. 



Getting to the most important element - how does it actually drive? And if I was to use a single word to describe it, it would be ‘impressive’. The car is the result of the work of Albert Biermann, whose previous playground was BMWs M Division. And he and his team got enough free rein to really show what could be done. 

The fact that electric cars accelerate well is old news. It will out accelerate the Mercedes E63S AMG to 200kmh and beyond and while the difference is small, having a car costing half as much being able to consistently do that is impressive. In addition it will do it with the same level of otherworldly grip. The one difference is that in the normal Sport mode, mashing the throttle will give you a shove up the back like that you simply never feel on the AMG. The instantaneous pick up is something no combustion engine can match. Using the NGB button adds an over boost function, although situations where it might really be necessary on public roads are few and far between. 

If you’re a lifelong ICE proponent the experience might be somewhat disconcerting and here Hyundai decided to help us oldtimers out with the N Mode. Here the car simulates (and rather well I must say) a more conventional ICE engine with engine sounds (not a melodious V12 😉) and breaks in acceleration akin to gear changes. While I felt this was completely unnecessary on the highway, on a curvy country road it made it so much easier to drive (I guess we will all get used to the idiosyncrasies of electric cars sooner rather than later, than it will become irrelevant but for now it’s a useful feature). It is ultimately a little bit slower this way but at the same time will feel more ‘usual’ so if you jump into an electric car for the first time it will be a much smaller change.

Actually hardly a change at all, and that’s part of the car’s appeal. It simply drives like a well sorted super saloon, and in the N mode you can completely forget it’s an electric car. 

The turn of speed it generates is exceptional and the fact that it can carry this through bends and corners equally well is nothing short of astounding. Adding almost 200kg on top of the certainly not light E63 and yet being able to generate the same corner speeds on first acquaintance - hat off. 

And it’s far from an inert, like on rails experience either. The rear will nicely complement the chosen line if you apply the throttle accordingly and at the same time demonstrate that it’s rock solid at all times. It really is a true tour de force. 

The one aspect where you feel the size and weight is when braking suddenly and strongly. It tracks true and the braking distances are very short but you feel what forces are at play. 



As this is an everyday type of vehicle, unlike the Alpine and Lotus, some more mundane points, too. The cruise control will offer a solid Level 2, meaning you can let go off the wheel on a motorway and country road and it will easily follow the road and break and accelerate appropriately - in that respect it really does as good a job as the E and better than the recent BMWs I have tried. 

It can do the electric car bits just as well as performance driving, with what would be shift paddles in an ICE car here regulating the recuperation. One pedal driving is easily done if you so desire, and at the same time you can fine tune it to require normal throttle and brake application as well - whatever you prefer in a given situation. 



Overall I have to say I came away more impressed than with either the Alpine or the Lotus. No, it is not a competitor and that doesn’t mean that an Alpine or something like it will not enter our household eventually. 

But having an electric 2,3 ton brick easily take it up with an AMG that has been perfected over decades and generations is a feat I truly didn’t expect. 

I know several members here are highly skeptical when it comes to electric propulsion but on the basis of this car I think we could be in for a treat over the coming years. With performance so far unimaginable and done at a much more democratic price point at the same time. 

All I can say is that you should definitely give it a try 👍🏻

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Count me in the skeptical... Have a 750 kilometers trip, and enjoy the refills with these EVs. Freedom? Freedom limited or conditioned to long refills, and even linger if you are not the first one to refill.

 
By: amanico : November 19th, 2024-16:42
Good for those who have to move in short distances... Bad for the others. And, moreover, this makes me think of quartz watches ( super accurate ) versus mechanical watches. One has soul, the other has super accuracy. No, not for me. And on a track. One a ... 

Change your mindset :-)

 
By: Bruno.M1 : November 19th, 2024-16:52
How many days a year do you effectively drive 500 km PER DAY ? Cause only on these days you will have to charge for 20-30 minutes while your petrol car is filled up in 3 minutes. But hey ... 500 km means you probably drove 4-5 hrs ... a 20-30 minutes brea... 

until now never a problem on the highway

 
By: Bruno.M1 : November 19th, 2024-17:07
at least not in Belgium. Most of my colleagues have an electric car. Simple reason, when you get a company car in belgium it must be an EV. Those are subsidised by the government while gas/diesel is punished. So they are way cheaper. During the last years... 

One thing, Nico: test drive this car! Really!

 
By: MCG (Markus) : November 19th, 2024-21:50
You will be impressed too! I don’t say, you will like it, I just say you will be impressed!

He will be ...

 
By: bimbeano : November 19th, 2024-22:06
.. a little bit impressed. 2300 kilos will be the real issue, versus the 1050 kilos of his A110. I was 'impressed' 10 years ago when I tried the P85d Model S, but it felt soulless and even though it handled 'well' you were aware of the weight and the 'NON... 

👍🏻 Sure, that’s why I said, “you will maybe not like it, but you will be impressed”.

 
By: MCG (Markus) : November 19th, 2024-22:34
I myself am a big fan of Alpine A110. I never drove a car with which I felt so much in control! I would never consider the Hyundai as an alternative, but it’s not a raw car as the Tesla was 10 years ago…

As I said, very different animals…

 
By: KMII : November 20th, 2024-04:00
And for me they are not meant to be compared. The Alpine is a fun toy, the 5N a much more daily use car for the whole family.

Here I agree the full 100% with you.

 
By: bimbeano : November 20th, 2024-07:47
If I had to buy 2 cars, one fun and one family, one has to be EV (the real fun car can't be EV yet) I would definitely go for these two. I would 100% prefer the Hyundai above a Plaid or Taycan ... although I would have to try the newest Model 3 Performanc...  

That's the setup I am thinking about as well...

 
By: KMII : November 20th, 2024-07:56
One family friendly car, which might well turn out to be a fully electric one, and then a fun one like the Alpine for the rest of the duties, i.e. mountain pass and road trip fun. As an alternative maybe a Yaris GR thrown in - that one has at least offici... 

The alternative could also be ...

 
By: bimbeano : November 20th, 2024-18:56
... a Megane RS ...or .... if you like the Yaris you can go for a car that's a lot cheaper and also slower but has loads more character and especially fun ... Clo 3 RS, buy one for 15 K and spend another 10K: KW V3 Brake upgrade Spacers LSD and gearbox ov...  

For that I first need the garage space 😂🤷🏻‍♂️

 
By: KMII : November 20th, 2024-19:07
But hopefully one day soon 🤞🏻 Definitely like the Megane and in the latest iteration it was even wife compatible (automatic). Still a possibility 😉

It’s all part of the transition…

 
By: KMII : November 19th, 2024-17:50
And initially quite some issues were there, especially with not all stations accepting all cards etc (Tesla did it better from the start). In the meantime it’s much less of an issue. And as you say, especially if you have solar panels on the roof the oper... 

Diesel

 
By: bimbeano : November 20th, 2024-07:40
The more I drive it, the more I start to like it. I always had diesels since 1996 when I bought a 90hp/200Nm 1.9 Tdi. Back then it was quite a fast and very smooth car, I do suspect it had more than 90 hp . I've always liked the torquey character of the p... 

The economics vary...

 
By: KMII : November 20th, 2024-07:52
As you say. Many people who have their own solar panels and rarely venture far basically get their 'energy' for free. But with the fast charging network the companies are trying to cash in at the moment, as there's still not a sensible competition. Some b... 

I've had a Honda Insight Hybrid, full electric Fiat 500e & now Chevy Volt Plug-in hybrid, all in Calif

 
By: cazalea : November 20th, 2024-23:21
I've never charged except at home or a family member's house. I have tried 4-5 times and got: errors, not a charging system member, credit card reader broken, try again later, etc. I'm not a joiner, especially when each batch of charging stations has its ... 

What you describe is a challenge for sure…

 
By: KMII : November 21st, 2024-02:24
In some countries and a reason why the spread in China has worked a lot better - there you have the same payment system over all the stations, making it incredibly easy. Likewise with Tesla, where you also do not have any issues in that respect with the S... 

That’s a personal preference 😊👍🏻

 
By: KMII : November 19th, 2024-17:22
But speaking to people who do 60k km+ annually with electric cars they all claim that it really isn’t an issue 😊

Apples and oranges…

 
By: KMII : November 19th, 2024-18:43
As there is currently no electric alternative to the Alpine 🤷🏻‍♂️ The much closer comparison is the E63 and the Hyundai. As there’s no successor to the E63 on the market currently and as the new M5 is even heavier than the 5N it’s a tricky one. One can on... 

As I said - different use cases 😊

 
By: KMII : November 19th, 2024-18:52
When I said the biggest problem was the boot I meant the Hyundai not the Alpine - that would be a pure fun car and doesn’t need nearly as much practicality so the boot is not an issue.

If I drive vigorously…

 
By: KMII : November 19th, 2024-17:20
I need to refill the 80 liter tank every 350km or so and that takes at least 10 minutes in total. So not that much time saving 😉

Given my experience about 300 should be doable driving comparably…

 
By: KMII : November 19th, 2024-18:08
So not that much of a difference 😊 A Lucid will give you 750km and more but is not as much fun (unless you go for the 1200 hp Sapphire one but then we’re talking a very different price range).

👍🏻 this is the same, what my friend said: change your mindset.

 
By: MCG (Markus) : November 19th, 2024-21:47
He said, he charges whenever he can, for 10 minutes, for 5 minutes, wherever there is a possibility. It’s not driving until your “tank” is empty… The good thing is, specific apps are helping you to find the right spots to get a quick up fill.. And yes, ch... 

In that sense…

 
By: KMII : November 20th, 2024-04:05
It was also interesting to compare the inbuilt satnav against GoogleMaps. I usually use the latter for test drives as I can predesign my intended route without the need to fiddle with the inbuilt unit. Here I wanted to compare the two and the inbuilt one ... 

Does 4 30 minute track sessions and still gets you home without recharging 😁

 
By: KMII : November 19th, 2024-17:17
It’s really been track tuned to ensure the battery doesn’t overheat and that you can get maximum performance from it both on track and the road. As for the 750km drive, yes, you will have to refuel once. But unless you drive a diesel you will have to do t... 

I am not averse to those…

 
By: KMII : November 20th, 2024-04:09
But they are set to disappear irrespective of that. And I can see why they would slowly bow out for cars if daily use, as soon electric cars will objectively do everything better. And here the comparison with quartz vs. mechanical is not appropriate, as c... 

I don't know much about EV

 
By: taipeigirl89 : November 19th, 2024-18:18
but I have a couple of questions. what really happen to those batteries after the vehicle is done with? are the power generated for the charging of the EVs really that "clean"?

The cleanliness of the power generation will depend on the country…

 
By: KMII : November 19th, 2024-18:36
In some countries it will be extremely sustainable in others less so. Even if the electricity is generated from less clean sources the much lower losses will still produce a better environmental footprint than with an ICE engine. As for the batteries, the... 

thx for the informative feedback

 
By: taipeigirl89 : November 19th, 2024-20:44
I also find a recent McKinsey survey on EV owners interesting. amongst the results, 46% of current EV owners in the US said they intend to switch back to ICE.

For what reason?

 
By: MCG (Markus) : November 19th, 2024-23:45
And the question is, who did the survey? Who was the audience and with what intent was the survey done? 😉

There's another element...

 
By: KMII : November 20th, 2024-08:03
Quite some car manufacturers are currently artificially limiting supply of their electric vehicles for two reasons - first of all they are not nearly as profitable with them as with the ICE ones, and secondly, especially in leasing and other setups, where... 

Hardly…

 
By: KMII : November 20th, 2024-10:17
They tend to be constructed just as durably as ICE cars - in fact if you look at cars such as the iX it brings so much expensive technology to the table which they would never put into a humdrum ICE car. And the life of a battery will most likely be much ... 

Hybrid a good solution ?

 
By: bimbeano : November 30th, 2024-21:49
Not really sure about that mon ami. I have already heard some horror stories about people with their BMW X5 45e ... batteries going crap after a couple of years just out of warranty. The dealer told them it was better to buy a new car than have the batter... 

I have been tinkering on that one as well.

 
By: bimbeano : November 30th, 2024-21:44
You know I do like the new A290, it would be a fun extra car next to the Clio and Megane. You know my Clio is almost 15 years old now and it is still as fresh as the day I bought it, thanks to good use and maintenance off course. So now start thinking abo... 

What do you do with your cars? 😱

 
By: KMII : December 1st, 2024-08:09
Third battery would be excessive IMHO - in principle it should still be on its first…

Even though you charge almost exclusively at home? 🤷🏻‍♂️

 
By: KMII : November 21st, 2024-02:38
In Europe this is the key question - if you use public fast chargers they are comparable in price per mile, at home it’s quite a bit cheaper, and practically free if you have your own solar panels (a steadily increasing share of households, given the rapi... 

One thing I forgot is the lower resale value

 
By: KMII : November 21st, 2024-06:15
That is currently an issue especially for the more expensive ones. In the transitional phase, where each new generation brings significant performance improvements it’s understandable that people are reluctant to saddle themselves with what could be old t... 

Let me think 🤔

 
By: KMII : November 19th, 2024-18:39
By sensible I actually meant something that would be likely fun to drive. Whether it’s sensible having something with so much performance is another question altogether. As for silly electric vehicles not that many around. Something like Tesla’s Model S P... 

Fantastic review! I will need to test drive this machine as well!

 
By: MCG (Markus) : November 19th, 2024-21:45
I heard exactly what you said: IMPRESSIVE! Not from one source, from many! If a car like that is coming with a nice exterior, this would be something! But, and this is the but, to me at least, the car doesn’t look good! Exactly because of what you said: i... 

I believe next year…

 
By: KMII : November 20th, 2024-04:12
The Ionia 6N will come. Now its looks are also not conventional but it’s a car that’s much lower and with better aerodynamics, so that should make it an even more natural drive and aid the range somewhat, too. And as you said, others will definitely come ... 

Compared to your smart, everything is :D

 
By: KMII : November 20th, 2024-07:47
Otherwise it looks not much different from a 3 series on the road The much lower seating positing and centre of gravity will definitely help further.

I just wanted to make sure we were talking about the same 😁

 
By: KMII : November 21st, 2024-08:14
And yes, you’re fully right. The cars all seem to have undergone decades of elephantiasis 🤷🏻‍♂️ Said 3 series in the M3 Touring version weighs 1,9 tons, far removed from where things started. Weight and space are both an issue.

This one I read with particular curiosity.

 
By: InHavenPro : November 19th, 2024-22:08
My neighbor drives the standard version, and I've always wondered what it was like.... I also enjoy that type of retro design, and totally agree this iteration has something favorably in common with the Lancia Delta.... Thanks a lot for the write up and q... 

Glad you enjoyed the review 😊👍🏻

 
By: KMII : November 20th, 2024-04:13
And too kind on the photography - I really just used the mobile phone and didn’t have that much time to take proper shots 😊🤷🏻‍♂️

It's amazing to see how they make a 2300 kilo car ...

 
By: bimbeano : November 19th, 2024-22:10
.. handle this well, so now just imagine how much better a 220 hp 1480 kilo A290 will handle and drive. I've already saw the tests on Youtube where the journalists explain how 'natural' this car feels compared to the high-tech aided Hyundai. Considering a... 

You’re right about the weight 😊🤷🏻‍♂️

 
By: KMII : November 20th, 2024-04:16
The possibilities for making heavy cars handle are certainly being used - I mean the new M5 comes in at 2,5 tonnes and still handles well. F you make cars fully electric this allows you so many more options for optimizing handling on top, not just with in... 

We’re patient 😁👍🏻

 
By: KMII : November 21st, 2024-02:13
Whenever you do find the time we’ll be happy to read about it 😊👍🏻

Didn't find one yet !

 
By: bimbeano : November 30th, 2024-21:40
There should be an A110 but I fear it already sold out :-( I already bought over 150 .... hihi. My wife thinks I'm going senile. ...  

Yup .. but they're gone.

 
By: bimbeano : November 30th, 2024-21:56
AND .. they weren't Hot Wheels ! I want the original only ! My brain got a twist or something so there's no turning back now.

That’s a fun one 😊👍🏻

 
By: KMII : December 1st, 2024-08:01
I do some of that too, these days. Have a collection of 1:18 cars but they take up a lot of space and are currently stored. And the Hot Wheels and the like occasionally come with from a toy store 😉

Unfortunately so...

 
By: KMII : November 20th, 2024-07:48
The Alpine is one of the very few exceptions nowadays. It's a strange world, where an M3 (albeit in estate form) comes in at 1,9 tons...

Nice Review!

 
By: Steve E : November 20th, 2024-02:01
Earlier this year I was seriously considering an electric vehicle. The reason I backed off was no option for home charging - to charge overnight - which seemed too inconvenient. Electric cars are barely out of their infancy. Just starting to hit their gro... 

They grow so fast, though 😉

 
By: KMII : November 20th, 2024-04:20
As you say barely out of infancy. But given the investment the progress is rapid. Ultimately they are a lot more efficient and also cheaper to produce and run, once you get past the initial learning curve. The inability to fast charge at home also prevent... 

I hear you...

 
By: KMII : November 20th, 2024-07:45
Range in the meantime has increased a bit since the i3 (I remember driving one at a Montblanc event back in 2017 ). And charging has gotten massively faster and options more prevalent. I have to say I really liked how BMW integrated the charging infrastru... 

For me the space isn’t a issue as my little princess has her own car nowadays.

 
By: Watchonthewrists : November 20th, 2024-07:53
I believe that since i owned the BMW things has evolved a lot . Am currently thinking of getting a new car in the near future so lets see what happens after driving a few different models and brands .

For us the prince and princess will probably reside at home for many a year yet :D

 
By: KMII : November 20th, 2024-07:59
Curious to hear what you finally decide on. Definitely want to try out the Lotus Emeya before making a decision and possibly a Lucid Air (if they don't pull the plug by then).