MichaelC
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They don't screw them in. They drop the hex head bolt into a recessed hex cutout.
Then a special female type screw attaches from the back side, over the hex bolt. So hex head bolt cannot rotate in its hex shaped recess, so precise tightening happens from the female screw on back.
This thread is not at all about the alignment of the bolts. All AP Oaks / Offshores are assembled the same in this regard. This thread is about the small slot that is cut into the hex bolt itself.
For sschew: Please stop worrying about AP bezel bolts quality
You recently raised concern over AP not having proper quality with regards to bezel bolts. Your position is the slot on the bolt is most often not centered properly. I picked up my chronograph for the weekend. No, I am not rooting for the Eagles (or the C...
I have yet to see any off looking bolts on the APRO.
And relatively little misses my eyes - or so I'm told. It's a curse, nothing is perfect, and hotels look a lot dirtier in my eyes than most people's eyes. But so far, I haven't seen anything from AP Royal Oaks that cause me to worry.
As shown, just a photo thing.
But seriously, even if less than perfect, they are damn close enough!
The guy means the slot cut into the bolt head is not perfectly centered on the head
But the photos prove different.
Umm there's something wrong with that dial color
It looks too AWESOME Cheers and love this model. Peter
Ha ha, you know it good buddy!
I can say it often looks grey and blackish, and not green. Very unique dial.
Nice photo rebuttal MichaelC.
As a long time owner of numerous APs I've never experienced a single case of misaligned bezel bolts. Just my $.02. M4
We can discuss anything here. But let's be as factual as possible.
To make a heavy statement like "most if not all" of the bolts are off - when you don't even own one? C'mon, man!!
So my initial explanation, when tested empirically, does show camera angle, lens distortion and light reflection could be at play.
Thank you for your well thought out test MichaelC 🙏 To sschew I apologize as some of my remarks were insensitive.
That is definitely my opinion.
Again, I have no problem with criticism of AP. I'm not paid to protect their realm. People can write want they want. But this particular post would have gone much better along the lines of: "Hi all. I am curious about the bezel bolts on your watches. It l...
It’s hard to have the bolts mis-aligned as they are not screwed in
They just go in a hex type hole and should align perfectly, on the back of the watch is where you screw go connect the bolt. I only ask they make a black ceramic 15202 with a blue tap.. dial and let me test it for 20 years. And please put in a robust move...
Agreed. That is not quite what we're talking about here.
The issue the poster raised is specific to the actual slot on the top of the bolt head. He feels that that slot is never centered correctly on the bolt head. Please see my photos above, I hope it is clear.
Simply parallax issue
Very easy to understand actually it’s purely a visual effect due to perspective
Nice response
I can see every troll is out and yet by Michael's own admission they're not all perfect and I can show many others that are off though I don't have permission. Truly classy Credor. Why should I be ignored? I didn't say any disparaging to you so I suggest ...
to be honest
I'm not worried. I brought something in a respectful way but feel a little attacked but since this is AP and you are a moderator I suggest you go ahead and ban me.
Why would I ban you? I treated you with respect, Sir.
Very funny though. Earlier, I showed this topic to my Son. I made a prediction that rather than reply in an accountable manner, you would come up with some kind of spin. It is the way of the world and I expected this attitude. What you should have replied...
no spin
so did I-I never treated you poorly. Glad you made a prediction but am I wrong? I already said I didn't mean every single bolt was off I said every AP has 1 or more bolts off. If I'm wrong I stand corrected and apologize-no need for pitchforks. However I ...
Nice picture
Actually the 2 and 4 o'clock look off. A direct straight on picture would be appreciated. Well I'm not going to keep going if I offended anyone sorry.
If I may...here's a photo of my Hublot sapphire with many bezel screws...
Beautiful watch and an incredible value. Just taking photos - I understand if there seems to be distortion with the bezel screws, the case, and other components that make me wonder if there was a problem this model! Notwithstanding the inconsistency with ...
That is a beauty, Peter.
I like Hublot, and have owned a handful over the years. Never found one to stick though. Maybe one day...
oops
wrong forum again but the reason why Hublot has misaligned screws is because they use actual screws. AP uses hexbolts on the fron to mitigate the problem but on the caseback they are not aligned as well-anyway this is what I was told.
Intentional post...
Hublot probably has 100pct misaligned screws but it's part of the charm of the brand. I don't believe AP has a patent on aligned screws so why can't Hublot do the same by having the same assembly? Cheers Peter
I agree
I own several Hublot watches and it never bothered me because they are actual screws and getting them all to align with the requisite torque would be difficult to say the least. Design choice I guess Hublot wants to use screws and not hex bolts. It would ...
While I don’t have any skin in the game.. I always
wondered how the manufacturer screws in the bolt recessed into a hex hole? Don’t the the hex screw facets hit the sides of the hole? I am surprised this actually works
They don't screw them in. They drop the hex head bolt into a recessed hex cutout.
Then a special female type screw attaches from the back side, over the hex bolt. So hex head bolt cannot rotate in its hex shaped recess, so precise tightening happens from the female screw on back. This thread is not at all about the alignment of the bol...
Proof in the pudding
Thanks for taking the time to post this! I was thinking to do the same, but then decided my fuzzy pictures would just muddle the issue further. Great watch as well! Best response to this would have been to just take the L and move on, but that seems diffi...
Owners of Royal Oaks can attest the bolts often look off in photos
But they are not in real life!