Audemars Piguet

In the end of last year I bought a fantastic brand new Audemars Piguet Royal Oak Perpetual Calendar ref. 25820ST. What a nice watch! However, it worked on my wrist only for 12 days and it stopped working on 20th February at 16:40. Sad... I also bought in ...  

Is this bad luck? Not so sure, I have had many problems with my 5402ST as well and it has always been serviced at the same place, where you met Mr Thomas Rubi, who, by the way is a very nice gentleman. Now the watch is functioning perfectly well and I am ... 

and to his credit I must say that he was not totally comfortable testing my watch just for a week after the repairs. At the same time I heard that the waiting lists for 15202 are long. So I guess the quality control of Audemars Piguet has collapsed. I wil... 

when the prices are what they are. In my books AP is simply not worth the money we pay for their watches. And the kind of watches I bought should never have hit the shelves of the shop. Best, Kari

must not be such hassle and mental torture to know they are not in good order. Hope all turns out better.

two flights worth of € 1,000 away. When I will next time visit Patek's Geneva Salon, I might also throw the junk I have to AP Boutique. I have also been offered an opportunity to visit AP's factory in Le Brassus but in my current mood I would be a most un... 

to one of the main owners who is also a Board Member of AP what I think. In a polite way, as always. But I will do something. Perhaps putting the other watch into pieces and film it to internet, write a polite letter or something. Now it is a bit difficul... 

Thanks tough for sharing, because only a broad public can motivate AP as any other brand to improve. I followed your sad experiences for a while now in these forums, but this is just the cherry on top. Two watches, hardly worn but reliably fail. Really so... 

will be my nice 5402 with box & papers. AP can do a full overall service and then I sell the watch or give as a present to somebody. The perpetual RO I can't afford to sell. When carrying this watch out from the shop, over 50% of the value is vaporisi... 

I would be on the wish-list... Yours, Adam

than having a Royal Oak on the wrist. Best, Kari

We could now start an off-topic discussion what is more reliable: A> the Lada car used somewhere out in the uncivilised desert and nobody cares to go down the unpaved streets. B> Or the AP that is worn by people like you in white collar with hardest... 

from 1974 till 1977 when working as a water clark.. I was told that when the car breaks, I will get a Toyota Corolla. With all the enthusiasm of a young man, I tried everything I could with my Lada: I drove over 60 km/h with the first gear, I changed to r... 

which left me on the road: a Mazda Rx-8 and a Bmw 335i coupe. Both were my personal cars, unfortunately, the Bmw left me 3 times on the Road and I still have problems with it.. But I never had any problems with my beloved Honda S2000 although I have done ... 

because today is my wife's birthday and she will get as a partial present her new car next week: BMW 435iX Cabriolet. Perhaps it will leave her on the road far away from home, lol. I have just good experience of this engine. I had as my summer car for a c... 

as far as I know, the very first series engines have only this kind of problem, and mine belongs to them.. Childhood-diseases....

I like the characteristics of the engine and I intend to borrow the car every now and then... Best, Kari

I have just heard from my AD, that there are many problems with the new 15202's! They have sold 4 in the last 6 Month, and 3 of them came back with the same issue: the watches stopped working!!! And yes, there are huge problems with the quality end-contro... 

just the same issue: the watch stopped working. The Service Centre thought they found the problem and also explained the same to me. However, it looks like there are at least two problems with the movement. It's weird that my just the same happened to my ... 

and naturally, they are very sorry. The good news is that now the factory knows about the problems and I hope that they can also figure out what went wrong with the latest production. Perhaps a re-call for check-up would be in place? Best, Kari

You get an email on a public state holiday from AP factory? => Some heavy bells must have been ringing!

the Regional Client Service Manager of Southeast Asia Mr. Jeremie Comel. In fact I got two mails. Jeremie is a very nice guy and he has been communicating with Switzerland, I do not know with whom there. Anyhow, it is clear that AP is taking such an issue... 

Im sorry, its very frustating when that happens to a watch. The 15202 is one of my favorites, but the fact that I had a ROO that stopped working twice (some days after the service, stopped again!) have delayed the buy, I know it is different movement (min... 

I have two Patek: they both faced a problem. I have one Audemars, the Millenary 4101: it is maybe the most accurate watch of my collection and never faced an issue. Conclusion: I'm an AP man? No, the reality is that any brand may face problems. I'm not su... 

I understand 100% the argument you are making. In Finnish we say "the lightning never hits the same place twice". In reality it can happen but very seldom. The lightning hit me twice and when the other watch was repaired, it hit again in 5 days. Plus ther... 

Surely, anyone here would echo your sentiments if we had the same experience. I have never experienced such problems with any watch, and my 15202 has been 100% reliable. I wish you continued luck with your Pateks. Do share with us the findings on the 1520... 

I am sure that one day these two AP RO will tick correctly. And my attitude is not to put AP against PP - vice versa: I would like to see these two brands side-by-side. I did not sacrafice remarkable amounts of hard earned money in order to criticise AP. ... 

Hope all will be ultimately sorted out to your satisfaction. What was the issue found by AP when they first serviced the watch? Please also keep us posted on what the next diagnosis will point to.

was originally adjusted too close to something else and that stopped the watch. To be honest, I did not even listen too carefully. My feeling was that AP wanted to tell something simple to say "a very minor issue that is now solved". People fly to space, ... 

I am sorry to hear that your AP's have been such a let down but you should be comforted by the fact that your 5550 is quite simply one of the best watches on the planet! I hope your AP nightmare is resolved quickly.

my 5550P works fine and it is very accurate. If any problems would arise, Patek likes to know about those before introducing the same technology to new watches. I well understand that when I was given an opportunity to buy a 5550P, I also approved the res... 

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I placed both Royal Oaks to the safe - also considered waste paper basket. When I calm down and go to Switzerland, I will probably take the watches for service but now I do not even want to think about the same. To say "I'm disappointed with Audemar Pigue... 

Kari, you deserve better. I hope the situation sorts itself out soon.

When I happen to visit Geneva, I will drop those watches for service and pick them up next year when I go there again. I have kind of lost my interest because one would be just bad luck, two tell something about bed manufacturing or quality control. I'm t... 

I only own 1 AP Royal Oak. It is a 15300. I have had problems with the movement. One day it might run 45 seconds fast per day, or more, the next day it is within COSC spec. I never know quite what I am going to get when I wear it. I feel far more confiden... 

twice a day. I try to find some merits from a watch that has stopped. I thought that my AP Royal Oaks are like Ladas: a hard kick will solve all the problems. But perhaps it's like you say - Italian sport cars. There's a rich Finnish guy who sold his Ferr... 

First of all I am truly sorry that a fellow purist has had to suffer such an ordeal! In this "hobby" we all suffer the occasional heartache and our experiences are riddled with "whys" and "ifs". But this? this is truly unacceptable! Second, as a long time... 

take 5711. It is different class. However, I must say that AP is trying to solve the problem in such a way that everything would be as easy as possible to me. For that I must give a full credit to AP. Another issue is that such rubbish should never go thr... 

... how AP has responded and what they propose to do to address this awkward situation (other than just 'take it back to the nearest service center'). Let us know the developments here.