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I am putting an alternate view
Nothing wrong with watch companies ( and other industries ) knowing their market. If there is a market for dragon ( very powerful symbol in chinese culture and this the year of the Dragon ) tourbys it makes sense to supply. There are many other toubys by different manufacturers , so just move on and buy what appeals to you.
Manufacturing what your customers want is not a current phenomenon. China made by some famous English potteries had Chinese, japanese motifs because the English market demanded them ( fascination with the East ). Rugs made for the European market had motifs that the European markets wanted and the rug merchants in turn had their rug weavers in Persia make thiese rugs for the European market.
Cheers,dreamer
This message has been edited by dreamer8 on 2012-01-16 15:51:03
Live from SIHH 2012: Audemars Piguet
This message has been edited by Allen on 2012-01-16 03:17:19 This message has been edited by AnthonyTsai on 2012-01-16 07:12:18 This message has been edited by AnthonyTsai on 2012-01-31 09:14:01...
The forged carbon diver has a great color scheme...
and the yellow accents really add a ruggedness to it. A simple bumblebee.
I guess we'll be seeing 12 billion divers!
Hey, not necessarily a bad thing... but this endless variation of the same thing makes me sleepy....
Well said..
If I could pinpoint my biggest criticism of AP it would be the endless variations of the same pieces.
Wow! - that AP diver is a real stunner..
.... also probably due to Allen's amazing picture but that FC diver really speaks to me. Love to see more complete set of shots, but TOH, I was never a big fan of the diver vs the chrono, but this really does change my mind. Looking forward to more detail...
Thanks Allen, your pictures are the next best thing
to being there, of course. That is one glowing dragon! Best, Tim
First impressions..
Reminds me of the IWC Aquatimer at first glance. I like the forged carbon addition with the ceramic bezel and steel plots. Will have to see it in person but from the pictures I think I like the looks of this better than the original Diver. It is clearly a...
I like the Offshore Diver, but...
I like the Offshore Diver, I feel that it has so much more character than the Patek Philippe Aquanaut (which is a very comfortable thinner watch). But this particular model reminds me of the IWC Aquatimer...
It didn't remind me of the Aquatimer since it was all black.
The Aquatimer seemed to always have some silver colored steel or titanium parts showing.
Thanks for the quick live pics.
Is that a tourbillon royal oak...skeletonized, and in steel?
Thanks for the AP live pics so far Allen!
The Carbon Offshore Diver looks very nice in your pic! Cheers, Anthony
Thanks, Allen!
The RO skeleton tourbillon looks fantastic. I'll also be curious to see the new diver. Great pictures! Cheers, Daos
First thoughts
I need to see it in flesh, but the RO Skeleton Tourbillon is one of the best looking watches that I have ever seen! A true masterpiece (based on one single pic, I know)! Guess it will be out of my range, but who knows, I might win at the lottery one of th...
My thoughts on the diver also!
Although initially my heart sank as I already have the ss and my firat reaction was that I prefer the new one
pandering to the chinese
I am really annoyed by all the pandering to the chinese swiss watch companies are doing these days. It just reeks of a mad cash grab. We are going to see dragon or panda watches from every brand and its just ridiculous, no matter how well executed the act...
And they're not NEARLY as bad as Piaget
with their "put a single Chinese character on the dial, call it a special edition"
I am putting an alternate view
Nothing wrong with watch companies ( and other industries ) knowing their market. If there is a market for dragon ( very powerful symbol in chinese culture and this the year of the Dragon ) tourbys it makes sense to supply. There are many other toubys by ...
Thanks Allen,
can't wait for more, they look very interesting, love the Skeleton Tourbillon... Best, Michel
Here you go.
The bezel screws are unaligned since it's a prototype. This message has been edited by Allen on 2012-01-16 21:45:51...
Limited edition
Is this a limited edition watch for the 40th anniversary? If so, how many will be made? Any thoughts on AP using the older 2120 movement which to my knowledge is "inferior" to the 3120. If they're using the 2120, I can only surmise that this is only a lim...
Fantastic for many reasons !
-First taking back, the AP at 6, the blue dial, the thin indexes and tapestry like the original is the best hommage to Mr Genta. I was not sure all the details will be taken, that is GREAT , the watch and the designer deserve it! -Not making other dials c...
THANK YOU for the coverage and the live photos..
wow...the re-issue is a beauty..wow and the 41mm is pretty sweet as well..guess the price differential will make me go with the 41.. anyhow word on the 15300?
The new 15202 could be my first AP
Thanks for the terrific photos Allen. They really bring life to the watches. Best,
That is stunning.
I wonder if the AP service center can change the dial on my 15202? This message has been edited by JerryW on 2012-01-16 20:15:29
I was thinking about you when I saw this one.
It's worth asking if they'll do it, but I suspect that it will be difficult.
My favourite at AP, this year, with the RO Skeleton Tourbillon.
Superb pictures, Allen. Best, Nicolas
How many different variations/dials/metals of the 15400 are there?
Thank you for the pictures. Much appreciated!
There are 3 steel ones with white, black and blue dials and bracelet.
I think there are 2 rose gold bracelet ones with white and black dials and 2 rose gold croc strap ones with white and black dials.
bigger ROC ?
is the case of the ROCs the same as the current ROC or slightly larger ?
Oh no..
The current RO case just fits my wrist so 41mm would be a no-go for me. Better start selling stuff to find a panda ROC now...
Can't wait to see these in the flesh
The changes are subtle but very engaging to the eye. I like the 12 o'clock marker "a la Jumbo" versus the current up-side down triangle. Also, notice the small arabic numerals above the minute markers are now gone. Plus, it seems like the minute markers g...
Thanks for the shots!
Love the strap. Seems to be a perfect size. Not overly wide and huge like the rubber strap on the new Offshore Chronographs. Can't wait to try this on!
Love it.
I'll try it on in two days. Let's wait for my final veredict I like what I see in your pictures. Thanks. Vte
I. WANT.ONE!
I always thought last years RO Diver had a bit too much stainless steel showing. This is just gorgeous and even more sporty with the color combo (most of us think IWC when we see this). One alternative would be to put this black ceramic bezel on the ss RO...
My AP fav this year, Nicolas!
there was very little talk about this one, but I understand from both Merk and Garcia that we'll see a lot more from the Jules Audemars and Millenary collections throughout 2012. Guess 2012 is not just about RO's.
I was not the author of these pictures, my friend.
But I brievly saw this watch in Geneva, and yes, I must admit that there is something whiich caught my interest. Will have to spend more time studying it. Was cool to meet you! Best, Nicolas
Thank you Allen!
Many Thanks to AP North America and PuristSPro Member Allen for the pics and the coverage!
Is that Pt Tourbillon Hand wound or auto?
If you can help me confirm the above Allen, Cheers Stephen
It's manual wind with power reserve on the back
Here's a picture: The non-tourbillon automatic version of the 15202 is also going to be limited to 40 pieces and is in fulll platinum as well. Perhaps you'll like this one? This message has been edited by Allen on 2012-01-16 21:53:18...
Thanks Allen for the ultra clear explanation!
I am still drawn more towards the Tourbillon, as i dont do automatics. Wonder if it shall be within my reach? ANy indication of what the MSRP shall be? Just dreaming! Stephen
I just found out
The Tourbillon version is going to cost more than 300,000 Swiss francs.
Ouch!
But for the price of Platinum and the works that goes into it, i guess it could very well be worth it. But others dont do the same, wonder why AP has to ask so much? Is it really that good and worth it? Stephen
Where's AP ROO Michael Schumacher LE?
Guys I thought AP ROO Michael Schumacher was going to be introduced @ SIHH 2012? Thanks & regards
Any news on the alleged.....
37mm RO..? I assume the 15300 is discontinued to be replaced with the new 37 and 41mm versions, and the 15202 stays at 39mm with the same movement..? If that is the case what about the 15305..? Is that to be stopped too..? I hope so..! Great report and th...
Those are good questions. I remember asking about the 15300..
But I don't recall for sure whether it is discontnued. I will try to find out.
FYI...
my dealer is over there today and has text me to say he is led to believe by AP that the 15300 and 15305 are being discontinued with the new 41mm (& 37mm..?) size replacing it. If that is the case then there are very few 15305 skeletons like mine abou...
Really the best release from any house this year!
2012 will be the year AP goes truly stratospheric. The releases are fantastic, the Jumbo re-issue is spot on! (No fake patina unlike Richemont Group)
Thanks for the report of AP's offering at SIHH
Great photos, thanks for the coverage of the new pieces from AP. The RO tourbillon skeleton is my favorite. The new ROO diver with the yellow accents is totally awesome except for one personal pet peeve where I would have like the hour hand to have matchi...
