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The Date is essential in the DATOgraph. It is part of its name, and of its identity, the balance of the dial, too.
Look at the 1815 Chrono... If the sub dials were aligned in the middle of the dial in a 3 / 9 o clock line, it would be perfect for me.
Now, when you look at a 1815 Chrono, you always wonder why:
1/ The sub dials are not on this 3 / 9 line,
2/ Where is the date. 
Best, my friend.
Nicolas
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Datograph: The most iconic Lange ever made?
The most famous, certainly. Still nowadays, a reference among finest chronographs. Best, Nicolas ...
Wouldn't it be the Lange 1?
Well you know much better than me. Best, my friend! Marcelo
Agree
So many strong characters that obliterate other chronograph. Even the date which I usually hate is awesome in Datograph.
The Date is essential in the DATOgraph. It is part of its name, and of its identity, the balance of the dial, too.
Look at the 1815 Chrono... If the sub dials were aligned in the middle of the dial in a 3 / 9 o clock line, it would be perfect for me. Now, when you look at a 1815 Chrono, you always wonder why: 1/ The sub dials are not on this 3 / 9 line, 2/ Where is th...
Yes without a doubt!
The Lange 1 is an iconic watch for Lange, but it does not hold much weight in the world of horology. The 1st generation Datograph in my opinion was an extraordinary achievement and remains the finest chronograph ever made from all facets. Some argue the l...
I totally agree, with all your points, if you allow me this replication. The Dato movement is at the top with a few others, in terms of decoration.
The Patek cannot beat it. Best, Nicolas
The 5170 competes in terms of technical refinement, not decoration
On a glance with both side by side, the Lange definitely pleases aesthetically compared to the relatively "mundane" 5170. However, credit where its due for the 5170's technical innovations that makes it somewhat interesting upclose (albeit, relatively min...
For me, it is THE Lange icon
true the Lange 1 came first, but the Datograph was a real breakthrough and one if the not the best Chronograph with a movement to die for.
Lange has several iconic watches... the Datograph is among them but...
THE icon is the Lange One since it is the rebirth watch still in the collection. Fx
The question is to know what defines an icon.
And for me it is not the horological content. It is a question of impact. Impact for the brand, impact on the audience, impact on the collectors. And there is no Lange watch with a bigger impact than the Lange One because it is the foundation watch still ...
When I think "icon", I think aesthetics first...
From an horological perspective, the Datograph no doubt. From a visual icon perspective, the L1 gets my vote. Cheers, John
Picking between the Dato and the L1 is like splitting hairs.
Both are iconic; and they are most likely simultaneously the two watches most people think of when the issue of Lange is raised. The Lange 1 starts the movement to big dates-quite a horological achievement (thank you, JLC!); the Dato was the first new chr...
Now the interesting way to see things is to try to compare the Lange One and the Dato with their respective contenders.
As for the Dato, it is above most of other chronos. Same for Lange One? Best, my friend. Nicolas
What competition does the Lange 1 have?
G.O.? Finishing is on another planet. Anything else the Lange 1 doesn't compete with/doesn't compete with it. It is (almost) totally unique.
All so different than the Lange 1.
Better would be to compare a Richard Lange; or an 1815. No one (but G.O.) makes anything like the Lange 1. I'm not arguing that it is the greatest watch ever made. Or that Patek or Vacheron don't make anything with that quality-just that it is almost comp...
No, I don't think so.
The KV is over-all a better watch-it's hand-made. But what the L1 has is its uniqueness. That's really what sets it apart. When you look at it you know you are looking at something you never saw before. Now in terms of quality of movement and finishing it...
I think that the Datograph is an icon in the specific context of the brand. I do not consider it an icon in the world of chronos in general yet but I am sure that with time it will ensure its own place. However the Lange 1 is without doubts Lange's icon,
And also an icon in the entire horological world. Regarding the case and dial design I think that the Dato it is not the best among chronos(5170, 1815, Cornes de Vache are far more nice in my opinion). However at a level of movement I admit that it is unb...
Just wore mine today.
I absolutely love it. The Dato for me any day of the week and twice on Sundays. The movement is surreal. All due respect to the other very fine and worthy chronos mentioned, there is something about winding up that dato, the easy-set date, the nice patina...
It is to most of us PuristS.
But not as recognizable as the Lange 1. I can think of at least one other watch that could be mistaken for the dato (KMII's Chopard chrono, for example).
I guess you could always find something to confuse one for the other.
But I think that between the Lange 1 and the Dato, the L1 is more recognizable as an ALS. Simply because there are many black dialed chronos out there, but few asymetrical layouts like L1's.
Yes, the Datograph is really not iconic at all ...
... so I will save you from the embarassement of owning it and take it into custody, my friend ..... Marcus
I always consider the iconic piece to be the Mighty...
Double Split... following that the Lange 1. Either of which (or the dato), I would love to own. Cheers Andrew
Historically the L1, culturally the Dato.
Both very important, but the Dato is just a winner from all respects. I wish I was into watches when it was first released...the reactions at the time must have been very interesting to see!
Dato
I was just a baby when Lange has risen from the ashes, but it seems that for the ones somehow involved with the comeback the Lange 1 is very meaningful. I've seen an interview with Kurt Klaus and he said the only Lange that really matters to him is the La...
Lange 1 is the iconic Lange.
dato is nice, but I did not love it when I owned it. Too thick, too low a power reserve. Patek 5170 and cornes de vache are better in my humble opinion. I love my Journe centigraph more than I did the dato. But the main point is when a newbie thinks Lange...
I think
all the watches from Lange&Söhne are iconic in certain way. Historically, the first series of the 4 Langes ( Lange 1, Arkade, Saxonia, Tourbillon Pour la Merite ) launched in 1994 as the rebirth of the brand and starting a new era, all are icons in te...
You are completely right.
You love it once you can appreciate it's just a little different to the competition.
Well the undisputed original icon is obviously the Lange One.
The Lange One is like what the Submariner is to Rolex, The Royals Oak to AP, the Reverse to JLC, etc. The Datograph I don't know, icon in its technical merits etc, but would it stand out to a more general public? The Zeitwerk is probably also to unknown c...
The undisputed original icon is obviously the Lange One.
Perhaps with metal back ? ...
