Nautilus 40 years Anniversary models

Oct 23, 2016,05:55 AM
 

Dear Friends,


I do not comment yet these watches. Even Patek Philippe were very aware of my earlier comments, I was offered an opportunity to study the watches closer. I took wrist shots from different angles in order to help you to form a better idea than the one based of press pictures.

I am very grateful for my friends in Patek who gave me this opportunity.

But let's have a look. The pictures are taken with iPhone 7 and they are not modified in any ways. In order to help you to understand the sizes, my wrist is 8 inches/200 mm.

 

























































Now it would be great to hear your opinions.

Best regards,

Kari


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 By: dr.kol : October 23rd, 2016-06:00
Best, Kari ...  

Many thanks Kari for the photos ! As I expected,

 
 By: GLau : October 23rd, 2016-06:11
the diamond markers do not look bling bling and printing of the years look quite subtle. Do the dials have the same blue hue ? How does the blue compare to regular 5711 and 5711P ? Cheers, Gordon

True! The diamonds are not "Bling Bling"

 
 By: dr.kol : October 23rd, 2016-06:21
It's even difficult to realise that diamonds are used when the watch is on the wrist. The dials are more blue and less grey than the standard dial. I can't say about the standard 5711P - I handled the watch a lot a year ago but can't say exactly about the... 

Wow, based on your renewed feelings, you ...

 
 By: GLau : October 23rd, 2016-07:17
need to get both then ! Best of luck and let us know how it goes. Cheers, Gordon p.s. Based on official photos, I thought and hoped that the blue in he dials for 40th would be a lighter and brighter one than the regular 5711. Obviously not after you have ... 

I will not apply both of them

 
 By: dr.kol : October 23rd, 2016-07:23
and I'm thinking hard if I should get one. Best, Kari

i think those are things that make you strong :)

 
 By: benzng : October 24th, 2016-02:46
with the things you listed above, who needs watches.

My Mrs. do not always seem to agree...

 
 By: dr.kol : October 24th, 2016-03:28
But implement the classic Greek democracy in my household consisting four daughters, wife and a bitch dog: "One Man, one Vote". Best, Kari

Like them and prefer 5711P ,but

 
 By: patrickh : October 23rd, 2016-06:20
I do not love them enough to put my name on the list. Great photos +++++ Thank you Kari. Best, Patrickh

Thanks a lot for sharing!

 
 By: sleepy_templar : October 23rd, 2016-08:21
From the picture seems the engraving on dial is almost invisible? Is it so in real life? If so it will be a great news: subtle engrave that you will only notice at certain angle!

The anniversary print is nearly invisible and please note that the watch is much smaller

 
 By: dr.kol : October 23rd, 2016-11:51
than the press photos or mine. I guess the owner will see the text because the owner knows that the print is there. But for sure a person next to the owner will not see the print nor understand that the indexes are actually diamonds. Best, Kari

Thanks Kari! [nt]

 
 By: sleepy_templar : October 23rd, 2016-21:33

My pleasure [nt]

 
 By: dr.kol : October 23rd, 2016-22:00

you are very welcome. [nt]

 
 By: dr.kol : October 23rd, 2016-22:08

I think that would be too much.

 
 By: dr.kol : October 23rd, 2016-11:36
I hope every fan would get at least one. Best, Kari

okay than the time only is totally for you :) if you don't get it

 
 By: christianch : October 24th, 2016-15:17
you might regret it like the previous platinum Nautilus. This watch is certainly not going to lose a lot of value..so if someone that loves nautilus can afford it should go for it.

Yes. And no.

 
 By: dr.kol : October 24th, 2016-15:29
I see your point. What has caused a lot of thinking to me is the idea I have about Nautilus: A luxury watch made of steel. Best, Kari

I think they are yours if you decide to order them.

 
 By: jonrus : October 23rd, 2016-13:39
This is in light of PP allowing you to play and take photos for this awesome post!

I guess that I would have reasonable changes to get one or two.

 
 By: dr.kol : October 23rd, 2016-13:53
But I have been a relatively good client and I know that Patek appreciate their "regulars". Best, Kari

the Naughty-Lust ! Get them both Kari, they are simply stunning.

 
 By: COUNT DE MONET : October 25th, 2016-02:05
and maybe you manage to get me one 5711, too? Go for them, they are really nice watches. Best Moritz

Naughty-Lust. That's a good one.

 
 By: dr.kol : October 25th, 2016-04:48
If I get something, one is enough. Are you looking for 5711A or P? Best Kari

I already loved them!

 
 By: russell996 : October 23rd, 2016-06:00
Great shots and the dial on the 5711P looks absolutely stunning when it goes very dark blue/black.

The blue brings into my mind Andaman Sea

 
 By: dr.kol : October 23rd, 2016-06:24
and its deep blue waters. By the way: one of the finest diving spots of the whole world. If I would buy (and get the allocation), I would use once 5711P and a dive. No weights needed on the left side... Best, Kari

I have so many dives under my

 
 By: dr.kol : October 25th, 2016-14:01
belt that I do not need much weights. Perhaps 2 x 5711P would do. Best, Kari

Diving in style!

 
 By: russell996 : October 25th, 2016-14:22
Would make for a great underwater photo opportunity.

thank you Kari for the shots

 
 By: Conkers : October 26th, 2016-06:18
I like them and have put my name down for both, but I am not bullish on chances!

Hi Confers, which of the

 
 By: GLau : October 26th, 2016-08:16
two do you like better? For me, I like the 5711 more because of my small wrist. The chrono would fit you well ! Cheers, Gordon

Hi Gordon

 
 By: Conkers : October 26th, 2016-15:56
I think the Chrono because of the size but having seen neither in the flesh I need to reserve judgment! What remains clear is that the live photos are indeed giving a far more appealing impression of them both.

If you are based in the US..

 
 By: jonrus : October 26th, 2016-18:06
The AD can submit your name on their allocation, and place a wait list for next year.

The color combination are very nice and the watches look fantastic imho...

 
 By: Mark in Paris : October 23rd, 2016-06:15
First, thank you very much for sharing those wristshots, they are very rare and often low quality, this will definitely help people make a little clearer opinion but especially allow watch fans to have a closer look at them. It is much appreciated Kari. F... 

I got from Patek a great (but probably unofficial) explanation:

 
 By: dr.kol : October 23rd, 2016-06:46
When 3700 was introduced 40 years ago, Patek fans were screaming. Such design, steel, weird, non-Patek and everything one can imagine. Forty years later Patek wanted to shake again and get strong reactions just like they got 40 years earlier. I heard in G... 

didn't change my mind

 
 By: Bruno.M1 : October 23rd, 2016-06:15
Loved them from the beginning. Absolutely gorgeous watches, for me the 5711 is by far the best Thanks for these live pics Kari

Thanks for watching. [nt]

 
 By: dr.kol : October 23rd, 2016-06:46

Thanks for the pictures!

 
 By: Arie - Mr Orange : October 23rd, 2016-06:23
The 5711 is beautiful and I would say a killer if it wasn\'t for that writing on the dial. The chrono is simply to big (for my taste). And I\'ve got the same wrist size as you so it\'s absolutely doable but the size just doesn\'t fit the watch IMO. It isn... 

I pretty much agree with you.

 
 By: dr.kol : October 23rd, 2016-06:48
I could wear the chrono without problems. It has the same thickness as 5980 and in a bigger case the watch wears slim! Best, Kari

Any Chance that this larger case size

 
 By: raymond74 : October 23rd, 2016-06:24
for the chrono wil come in a steel version?

I asked the same... [nt]

 
 By: dr.kol : October 23rd, 2016-06:49

Which one - or both? [nt]

 
 By: dr.kol : October 23rd, 2016-11:28

They are well done watches.

 
 By: geross : October 23rd, 2016-06:26
My only comment is that they are suppose to be sport watches in the maritime mode , so to be made of platinum would contradict the sports mode then it has bling. Making it more dress watch than a sports watch. But this just my opinion. But its an annivers... 

Yes Geross...

 
 By: dr.kol : October 23rd, 2016-06:52
I refused one year ago the standard 5711P by saying "Nautilus is a maritime inspired sports watch and it should be made of steel". A month later I regretted but the watch was gone already. I think it's suitable to celebrate 40 years with a platinum versio... 

well writing or not the anniversary is more special than the 5711..so if you don't get it ..

 
 By: christianch : October 23rd, 2016-10:53
you might regret it! I would also say that is a good investment.

Yes, there's a lot to consider.

 
 By: dr.kol : October 23rd, 2016-11:30
However, I am buying only watches I also wear. Investments: I like e.g. land. Best, Kari

I agree but I think you might end up wearing this one..unless

 
 By: christianch : October 24th, 2016-15:19
you found it too heavy than no. My experience with a full platinum watch is limited to the day date 36mm platinum. After one or two days I was totally okay with the weight and I don't regret buying it. In fact it is one of the watches I wear the most. Thi... 

I have roughly a dozen of platinum Patek

 
 By: dr.kol : October 24th, 2016-15:32
and I always love the additional weight the material gives. Furthermore, I love the cold platinum colour. So the weight is not the issue. Best, Kari

The blue hue is lovely.

 
 By: willski : October 23rd, 2016-06:58
Thanks for sharing the pics Kari. Out of curiosity, Is this blue the same as the \'other\' 5711P?

I think it is very similar.

 
 By: dr.kol : October 23rd, 2016-07:05
But I played with the standard 5711P one year or so ago. Anyhow, the blue is great! Best, Kari

Thank you.

 
 By: willski : October 23rd, 2016-20:31
Don\'t think too many people will have seen both yet.

Do you have photos of the back?

 
 By: piccolochimico (aka dsgalaxy1) : October 23rd, 2016-08:20
Still not loving the epitaph on the dial, but that's it. Many customers will be happy to receive their anniversary nautilus

From the back 5711 is same as the standard

 
 By: dr.kol : October 23rd, 2016-11:52
version and the chronograph movement is the same as in 5980. I did not take photos from the back because I did not want to show the serial #. Best, Kari

Thanks for the shots, Kari!

 
 By: MCG (Markus) : October 23rd, 2016-09:05
In my opinion, the watch looks much better than expected!

thx for the live pics !

 
 By: P@trick@Belgium : October 23rd, 2016-09:28
loved them both from the beginning, (except the price .....) so that means i will have to sell some pieces of my collection to fund these whenever i would be able to get them but I think I would wear them a lot so that 's a good reason i guess

Perhaps a kidney...

 
 By: dr.kol : October 23rd, 2016-11:44
I think that if you love them and would also wear the watches, it's the way to go! Best, Kari

I confirm my order of the 5711p :-)

 
 By: Thy1r : October 23rd, 2016-09:41
Thank you Kari for these great pictures

I am happy for you! [nt]

 
 By: dr.kol : October 23rd, 2016-11:43

Not sure these pieces are signifying any direction.

 
 By: russell996 : October 23rd, 2016-10:01
They stand on their own as anniversary pieces and should be appreciated as such.

Let's hope so.

 
 By: dr.kol : October 23rd, 2016-11:41
I just wonder how much the fifty years anniversary watches will glitter... I hope they rather go towards complications. Best, Kari

This is the real 5711 p

 
 By: Pateksammler : October 23rd, 2016-09:52
Enter your post text ...  

Both look great to my eyes.

 
 By: russell996 : October 23rd, 2016-10:05
...  

I only can say there is huge difference between both Paltinum watches

 
 By: Pateksammler : October 23rd, 2016-10:10
1. the size 2. the anniversary print 3. the diamonds The only thing which is better is the kork Box

The size is the same

 
 By: Bruno.M1 : October 23rd, 2016-10:43
.and concerning the diamonds ... I don't like luminova so I might prefer discrete diamond baton markers

Indeed, the diamonds are very discrete

 
 By: dr.kol : October 23rd, 2016-11:38
taking into account that they are diamonds. Best, Kari

Maybe someone did ask before me but

 
 By: Thy1r : October 23rd, 2016-09:58
How does the 5711p weight feels? Heavier than what you own for example?

It feels very heavy - like it would be made of massive platinum.

 
 By: dr.kol : October 23rd, 2016-11:42
It's heavier than the WG oversized chronograph. But it feel cool and good! Best, Kari

Haha :-)

 
 By: Thy1r : October 23rd, 2016-11:45
Can\'t wait... Do you have an approximate delivery date ? Whole year or two years of manufacturing?

Dear Kari.....

 
 By: Andy : October 23rd, 2016-10:51
But the question is will you order one...? I sense your still not convinced and I assume it is the writing on the dial which although is subtle when viewed in real life is obviously still maybe an issue..? What would you do if they put the diamonds on the... 

If they put diamonds everywhere,

 
 By: dr.kol : October 23rd, 2016-11:35
I will buy ALS & VC. But I doubt. Perhaps I need to go for the platinum version. That would be something very different. Best, Kari

Go for it....

 
 By: Andy : October 23rd, 2016-12:03
I'm interested to see what comes out next Basel from Rolex for their 50th anniversary....should be interesting. Andy.

I love also some Rolex models

 
 By: dr.kol : October 23rd, 2016-14:01
like Submariner and Daytona. I think Rolex represent unbeatable value for our money. Best, Kari

I feel foolish!

 
 By: BuyOptions : October 23rd, 2016-10:58
previously I bashed the anniversary models from just one illustrated photo. Terrible on my behalf, your real life personal photos have inspired new respect into the models. Let us know which model you decide to buy.

In my humble opinion they both look nice

 
 By: Poky : October 23rd, 2016-11:17
The diamond indices are fine and actually look good, I don't usually like diamonds. I personally don't like the 40th anniversary on the dial, even though it does not look very obvious. Just not my thing. I prefer a dial with not too much writing. The size... 

Yes, same with me. Diamonds are in my book for ladies.

 
 By: dr.kol : October 23rd, 2016-11:33
However, in these watches the diamonds are not obvious. And I agree, the less text on the dial, the better. Best, Kari

Well, I think you should go for it

 
 By: Poky : October 23rd, 2016-13:02
even if you don't warm up to them they will become more valuable with time and you can still get your money back, if not more. They are special pieces after all. The question is whether you are going to get something that you have fallen in love with or a... 

I love them

 
 By: jonrus : October 23rd, 2016-12:20
They are beautiful, especially the dark color changes on the dial. To be honest, I forgot about the date markings until it was mentioned on the posts. It just shows how subtle they are.

Same for me [nt]

 
 By: Thy1r : October 23rd, 2016-12:23

Patek has some wonderful cufflinks.

 
 By: dr.kol : October 23rd, 2016-13:55
I have the pictured ones also in YG and RG. But my favorite are Nautilus cufflinks. Those are great with 3700, 5711, 5712 or 5980. Naturally with blue dial. Best, Kari

I think that the most important factor in buying a watch is does it have ...

 
 By: patekova : October 23rd, 2016-15:31
the "Wow" factor for the person contemplating the purchase? Is it something that literally creates a tingling sense of excitement and joy when looking at the watch in the metal. To buy a watch because, "I really don't like diamond markers but they don't l... 

Totally agree with you

 
 By: Mark in Paris : October 23rd, 2016-16:05
Especially when it comes to Patek Philippe, people focus a lot on the value, the speculation etc... This is natural I guess but I think it should really come back to how a watch pleases us. There are many novelties I saw from Patek or other brands that we... 

I think one must be a realist...

 
 By: dr.kol : October 23rd, 2016-22:06
Even we do not discuss value here, naturally people think about the same. If we buy a new Ferrari, that involves a lot of thinking and discussing and also in such a discussion value plays a big role. These two anniversary Nautilus cost as much as a Ferrar... 

Of course, I remember we had a discussion on this

 
 By: Mark in Paris : October 24th, 2016-06:47
It is normal to include this matter in the decision making, especially at these significant price points. Cheers, Mark

Absolutely agree.

 
 By: Arie - Mr Orange : October 24th, 2016-06:58
I\'m not a multi millionaire so I would never have bought all the watches I own now if I wouldn\'t be able to get at least 80% of the monetary value back of what I paid when I bought them (new). Obviously it\'s about the watch itself. But if they would on... 

Same with me.

 
 By: dr.kol : October 24th, 2016-07:17
And most of my very limited funds are in the companies I manage. My late mother used to say (in Finnish): "It's not fun to be poor even it makes us laugh to the situation quite often". Best, Kari

Nothing wrong with considering "value". In fact, it would be foolish not to consider it,

 
 By: patekova : October 24th, 2016-08:45
BUT, in general watches, especially modern watches, are a poor long term financial investment. So if a watch has the wow! factor and additionally represents good value all the better. However, without the wow! factor, one is bound to be disappointed in a ... 

I agree.

 
 By: dr.kol : October 24th, 2016-12:39
I do not invest into watches but because I spend big amounts of money, I take the "value" into account. Best, Kari

Great post Kari, thank you for clarifying the dial and markers. It's definitely

 
 By: doublesix : October 24th, 2016-09:31
more discreet than what we saw in the press pics.

I feel it was my duty

 
 By: dr.kol : October 24th, 2016-10:59
because I had an opportunity to see the watches in metal. Best Kari

SJX has some fantastic pictures too on his blog

 
 By: Bruno.M1 : October 24th, 2016-10:08
I believe posts ( or used to post ) here too. Google it, it's a must see

Some great shots

 
 By: russell996 : October 24th, 2016-11:45
.

Looks good on you!

 
 By: patrick_y : October 24th, 2016-13:18
The watches look excellent on your wrist Kari! And I do like the diamond markers. They're quite subtle but do give the watch a special effect. The 40th engraving on the dial and the years are subtle and not immediately seen, which is good, but I find thei... 

Have you decided to get the watch?

 
 By: jonrus : October 24th, 2016-21:46
I like the 5711P. Not so sure about the large Chrono.

Great photos!

 
 By: whit : October 25th, 2016-04:55
The first thing I noticed was the size of the date aperture at 3 o'clock. It appears to be much smaller, maybe square, with just enough room for the number to show. Not that it's not attractive, just that it was the first thing I noticed, even before the ... 

The movement is the same as in 5980

 
 By: dr.kol : October 25th, 2016-07:00
but in the Anniversary chronograph the case is (much) bigger. These facts are placing the date window to a little bit unnatural place. My first thought when I took the watch to my hands was "would have been better without date". Best, Kari

Sorry, Kari, but it pains me to have to say that...

 
 By: anonymous09 : October 25th, 2016-11:08
your wrists are definitely not in the least bit photogenic. In respect of the watches – as much as the embossing isn’t as quite in your face as the press release renders (presumably – and if so, like most of the industry, they need to dial it back a bit o...  

Thank you Kari for sharing these live photos with us!

 
 By: KamalRostov : October 26th, 2016-18:07
After looking at these repeatedly [I must confess!], I am slowly warming up to the 5711 and am now wondering what would be the process of ordering one post launch. I've heard much conflicting stories on post launch orders [differs from one AD to another/b... 

In the UK

 
 By: russell996 : October 27th, 2016-03:30
your AD had to submit your name by the end of last week. Allocation has this week taken place and people have been advised of their allocation. No idea if further rounds of allocation will take place or if it is being done the same elsewhere.

Thanks for that info Russell

 
 By: KamalRostov : October 27th, 2016-03:37
Hoping to get one allocated to me.

I do not really know.

 
 By: dr.kol : October 27th, 2016-05:43
I would simply contact my regular supplier: AD or Salon. Best Kari

Thanks Kari.

 
 By: KamalRostov : October 27th, 2016-19:56
Exactly what I did, hence the conflicting stories KR

In the US

 
 By: jonrus : October 27th, 2016-18:09
AD submits name of person deemed suitable for the allocation. Application form completed and notified if allocation is approved. AD can take names to submit next year for pieces that fell through during delivery. Need to submit address as well since it is... 

Jonrus, thank you for the reply.

 
 By: KamalRostov : October 27th, 2016-20:10
I had my particulars taken but I see no actual \'form\' filled. Anyways, the AD said that they would \'pass it on\' to Geneva for allocation decision. I do hope that that\'s done... I\'d be cross if it wasn\'t. KR

In the US,

 
 By: jonrus : October 27th, 2016-21:26
It\'s usually decided in NY. Are you based in the US?

Some nice shots and write up.

 
 By: russell996 : October 27th, 2016-09:25

Thank you. [nt]

 
 By: dr.kol : October 28th, 2016-15:00

Wow Kari. They both look good on you. Get both :)

 
 By: roppfan : October 30th, 2016-04:06
If you plan to get 1 only, get the 5976. It looks really good on you imo since you have a big wrist.

:), :)

 
 By: dr.kol : October 30th, 2016-16:08
No. But thanks. Best, Kari

What do you mean by saying "yellowish hue"?

 
 By: dr.kol : October 31st, 2016-01:09
The colours of 5711 and 5976 are very similar. The white gold case of 5976 did not have any yellowish hue as far as I could see. But as a fan of platinum, the choice would be easy for me in case I would get one. Best, Kari

Get the 5711P LE! [nt]

 
 By: jonrus : October 31st, 2016-04:25

It may stay as a dream

 
 By: jonrus : October 31st, 2016-16:50
My PP rep clearly stated (prior to the announcement of the 5711P LE) that the regular 5711P special order will no longer be made. (Unless you hear something else otherwise).

The difference is not big. Well,

 
 By: dr.kol : October 31st, 2016-12:16
platinum looks like platinum. That's why I love platinum. But the WG is not yellowish at all. It's just not platinum but gold. Best, Kari

A great definition. [nt]

 
 By: dr.kol : November 1st, 2016-11:47

:p

 
 By: CaptainCrunch : November 2nd, 2016-03:59
..

I see in the press release that

 
 By: russell996 : November 8th, 2016-09:35
the pieces are each individually numbered. Did you happen to notice how this is done?

LE numbered

 
 By: Azzsi : November 8th, 2016-15:19
I would be very surprised if they were actually individually numbered. However reading the press release I see where there is confusion.

The wording seems clear?

 
 By: russell996 : November 8th, 2016-16:07
"The Nautilus Ref. 5711/1P 40th Anniversary in platinum 950 is being crafted in a limited edition of 700 individually numbered watches."