Impact forces concentrate on a point rather than a curve

Jan 31, 2023,16:19 PM
 

So because the side of most cases is curved, a blow can slide off (a "glancing blow") and not have much force transferred. But the crown is a point, and any force (hitting doorframe possibly, or a wall, or drop on the floor) can be concentrated on the crown.


A friend of mine, a Highway Patrol officer, always says there is a battle going on between his patrol cruiser and his wristwatch--if he exits the car in a hurry, the watch pays a price. 

Another customer is a fireman - I detailed his diver and a week later it was totally scratched. I asked "What happened!?" and he replied "well I had this old lady over my shoulder, taking the steps two at a time to escape the smoke, and I ran into a concrete wall at the bottom". We decided to do his repair for free ...

Anyway, there are a number of small gears, springs and levers concentrated around the end of the stem, as shown here. 
I am using a Seiko diver because I have these photos handy but most mechanical watches are similar:





These all rotate or act against small pins pressed into the base plate. If one of those pins or gears is deformed, or dislodged, it's a safe bet the watch was dropped or hit. 
You couldn't do that by winding or adjusting the time or date. 



Another issue I have seen, from a good customer whose Rolex Submariner showed no external damage, was a crystal that "had a tiny chip" and eventually shattered. He wanted a warranty replacement. I was skeptical but said OK, and when I tried to fit a new crystal - I couldn't get it to go in. I measured the crystal seat in the case with a digital caliper and found it was slightly oval, not round.

He confessed to the watch falling out of his locker at the golf club - from the top shelf to the tile floor. But visually there was no obvious damage so he strapped it on and went out to play golf. A day later the crystal "suddenly cracked". I think his was the watch on the right below.


I'm not suggested either of these is exactly what the service department found, but they are examples I have personally dealt with.

Finally there is always the case where the crown was not screwed in all the way, and the threads either become deformed when it is dropped, or worse! the person goes swimming... first Rolex I serviced was full of water for a day or two till the lady used her hair drier to heat it up in an attempt to dry it out...

I hope this gives you some ideas.

Cazalea

 



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The effect of a direct hit on a watch crown?

 
 By: MilDiver : January 31st, 2023-06:32
Question to the experts: What should be the effect of a direct hit (when wearing) on the crown (beside the visual)? does it cause a damage in the movement? what if the watch has screw-in crown? as I understand, it should be locked in its place by the thre... 

No expert at all

 
 By: dedestexhes : January 31st, 2023-06:44
I would assume a hit on the crown, regardless of what damage is done via the crown, is also a hit for the complete watch. So damage to the movement would be possible depending on the force of the hit. Dirk

I understand that

 
 By: MilDiver : January 31st, 2023-10:44
But the question was about a hit coming from the crown through the stem.

Not really.

 
 By: MilDiver : January 31st, 2023-10:43
But I found, more than once, that service centers use "crown got knocked" as an excuse to avoid repair under warranty. trying to learn more on the subject.

Thank you, now I understand why…

 
 By: Cpt Scarlet : January 31st, 2023-12:19
I recommend that you take a look at this link as it explains the Rolex Submariner in some detail that you should find interesting: www.thenakedwatchmaker.com

Impact forces concentrate on a point rather than a curve

 
 By: cazalea : January 31st, 2023-16:19
So because the side of most cases is curved, a blow can slide off (a "glancing blow") and not have much force transferred. But the crown is a point, and any force (hitting doorframe possibly, or a wall, or drop on the floor) can be concentrated on the cro...  

Thank You

 
 By: jim_94104 : January 31st, 2023-16:29
for this informative feedback. I guess the devil is always in the details 😅

Thank you Cazalea, for this great feedback.

 
 By: MilDiver : February 1st, 2023-04:34
and details, and for being supportive for the people on duty! The detailed explanation definitely gives a perspective and idea's. One question that I'm not sure about: If I use a screw down case, and the crown is screwed in properly, wouldn't that "bayone... 

Hi, I have thought a lot about your question

 
 By: cazalea : February 1st, 2023-22:07
I'm not a physicist, so I can't verify my hunch with analytical calculations ... having said that I can tell you that "kinetic energy has to go somewhere" when you drop a watch, or bang it on the doorframe. Let's analyze this logically - the crown is usua...