Hi, I have thought a lot about your question

Feb 01, 2023,22:07 PM
 

I'm not a physicist, so I can't verify my hunch with analytical calculations ... having said that I can tell you that "kinetic energy has to go somewhere" when you drop a watch, or bang it on the doorframe.


Let's analyze this logically - the crown is usually near the wrist of your left arm / hand. In that position it is unlikely to receive a direct blow of any kind that doesn't also hurt your wrist. But it's still possible if you're swinging your arm and going through a narrow space. Otherwise, the blow to the crown is likely if the watch is NOT on your arm and is dropped or falls off a surface.

I can tell you from multiple experiences that a pocket watch falling even a short distance is likely to suffer damage to the movement, because typically they are not shock protected. You are supposed to protect them by wearing them on a chain, and keeping them in your vest or pants pocket.

I took care of this nice pocket watch for a pal. It got repairs to the keyless works and a new balance wheel shaft.


He has a mild tremor and fumbled the watch a couple days after he received it.  No visible physical damage, from what he said was "only 4-5 feet onto a thin rug on the floor!" 
But that's enough -- it broke the new balance pivot anyway which is only about the diameter of a human hair.



Here is another case of a drop with no visible damage but the watch was running crazily. My Stowa is on the left, his Montblanc on the right. Very very common and popular movement, the Unitas 6498.

Can you spot what's wrong on his movement?



The hairspring adjusting lever popped off and was dangerously dragging on the still-oscillating balance wheel. Luckily it didn't fall deeper into the movement and do more damage. 



I fished it out and then using my other watches as a guide, pressed the lever back on in roughly the correct alignment





Checked the movement for any other issues, then re-timed the watch. It took an hour or so to get everything back into proper condition. But it very well could have been a disaster.



Another common failing, often related to rough handling, is the movement screws come loose and fall into some place they shouldn't. Here's a Tudor with the movement screw and tab floating inside the watch. 


I fished them out from the stem's opening.



The tab was scraping on the rotor so it wouldn't autowind, and the screw was interfering with pulling out the stem. Again, no external damage -- but then it was an old watch. Put them back, tightened all the screws (others loose too), checked for proper operation and timing, etc. This job was finished.



These are just a few of my personal diagnostic experiences, but the point is, energy has to go somewhere and unless the watch falls on a very soft surface, the smallest thing in the line of force takes the punishment.

Cazalea



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The effect of a direct hit on a watch crown?

 
 By: MilDiver : January 31st, 2023-06:32
Question to the experts: What should be the effect of a direct hit (when wearing) on the crown (beside the visual)? does it cause a damage in the movement? what if the watch has screw-in crown? as I understand, it should be locked in its place by the thre... 

No expert at all

 
 By: dedestexhes : January 31st, 2023-06:44
I would assume a hit on the crown, regardless of what damage is done via the crown, is also a hit for the complete watch. So damage to the movement would be possible depending on the force of the hit. Dirk

I understand that

 
 By: MilDiver : January 31st, 2023-10:44
But the question was about a hit coming from the crown through the stem.

Not really.

 
 By: MilDiver : January 31st, 2023-10:43
But I found, more than once, that service centers use "crown got knocked" as an excuse to avoid repair under warranty. trying to learn more on the subject.

Thank you, now I understand why…

 
 By: Cpt Scarlet : January 31st, 2023-12:19
I recommend that you take a look at this link as it explains the Rolex Submariner in some detail that you should find interesting: www.thenakedwatchmaker.com

Impact forces concentrate on a point rather than a curve

 
 By: cazalea : January 31st, 2023-16:19
So because the side of most cases is curved, a blow can slide off (a "glancing blow") and not have much force transferred. But the crown is a point, and any force (hitting doorframe possibly, or a wall, or drop on the floor) can be concentrated on the cro...  

Thank You

 
 By: jim_94104 : January 31st, 2023-16:29
for this informative feedback. I guess the devil is always in the details 😅

Thank you Cazalea, for this great feedback.

 
 By: MilDiver : February 1st, 2023-04:34
and details, and for being supportive for the people on duty! The detailed explanation definitely gives a perspective and idea's. One question that I'm not sure about: If I use a screw down case, and the crown is screwed in properly, wouldn't that "bayone... 

Hi, I have thought a lot about your question

 
 By: cazalea : February 1st, 2023-22:07
I'm not a physicist, so I can't verify my hunch with analytical calculations ... having said that I can tell you that "kinetic energy has to go somewhere" when you drop a watch, or bang it on the doorframe. Let's analyze this logically - the crown is usua...