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The latest news here is that the Astra vaccine has been abolished permanently by the health authorities in Denmark.
This is a massive blow to our vaccination program. The other issue is the the J&J vaccine has been put on hold. The J&J is our biggest supplier. Right now it looks like I will recive my shot at the end of the summer - earliest!!! Lets see what happens with the J&J :-( :-( not in a good mood now...
Dont think there is a problem. AZ only delivers a minority in Germany and the few million bottles we have are taken in really fast speed by those who are willing to take it.
If AZ would be a bigger part of the plan, then we would have a problem though. But it isnt.
Every medicine ever will always have adverse reactions
This is more severs than others but then again the world pulled a world class feat by making the vaccine in 6-9 months, less than half the time it normally takes.
AstraZeneca has been on a complete hold in Denmark for a few weeks now,
It’s huge problem for the program as it is one of our major suppliers and we have large quantity in stock.
We have had a few dead and some cases of thrombosis
Mainly young people and health care workers as it was administered to them first and foremost. European Medicines Agency (EU) has confirmed in a statement today that there is an issue but still minor compared to the benefits. Here in DK it is still on hol...
Just to put this into prospective...
In the UK 11.7 million doses of Astra Zeneca vaccine had been administered by March 7 this year saving many lives. The risk of blood clots is 1 in 250,000 The risk of being killed in an auto accident is 1 in 37,000
True but it all goes to relative comparison. The way our administration been advertising is it has 0 tolerance for deaths. So if US made vaccines are safer they wud wait out 2months in lock downs than risk 100 more deaths. Then again we are losing 60/d
....without the vaccinations. we are stocked up on AZ but they r not being administrated 55-. Given a choice anyone wud wait for the Pfizer Moderna over AZ but a lot of ppl don't have that privilege. So we went back in to lockdown and stay at home order i...
Zero tolerance is hard for me to accept as reasonable
Exactly as you say, NOT giving it and waiting for others means tolerating a lot of unnecessary deaths!
They know their guidelines are not foolproof!
So I hope they are not committed to the totally unreasonable claim that anyone who gets sick must have violated them!
since I am a German physician who seems to spend way too much time organizing vaccinations these days, let me chime in ...
... the original trial data submitted by AZ to the regulator (EMA) did not have enough data on over 65 year olds, so several countries recommended it only for younger people (such as health care workers). AZ later submitted data showing that the vaccine i...
many are low in blood platelets (which form the clots)
the assumption is that there is an immunological response that activates the platelets and the clotting response. A telltale sign is that in addition to the brain thrombosis they have small bleeds in the skin because those platelets are then missing elsew...
Excellent post sir, thanks for sharing!
Even among the generally educated, there seems to be a growing tendency towards condemning first and educating oneself later... Cheers Marc
Thanks a lot for all these details.
I heard that the risks with AZ are also mainly on first dose so if already had it without a problem it is pretty safe on the second dose even on younger ones. Not sure that’s verified. Kev
My dad ...
.... aged 84 got his first AZ shot a couple of weeks ago. I wouldn’t mind getting AZ as well, i just hope i can get Johnson&Johnson ... only one shot needed apparently. I guess any vaccin these days is a blessing, people are fed up with this virus. Bim
So, I am like younger than 25 years old and got the astra vacinne.....
Do you guys think I will get a blood clout ? cross fingers no 😂🤣🤦♂️😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😭😭😭😭😭 I somehow got the vaccine very early but i am starting to think the reason why i got it so quickly is because no one wants it :p I am so far not dead so that is a good sign! ...
Germany
Does not longer recommend for people younger than 60 this veccine as too much risk for specific brain thrombosis. Atrazeneca is well known between specialists for not very precise studies. My doc rrecommended not to take it and wait for Johnson & Johnson....
Due to home office, I‘ve had time to watch a few government press conferences live on the topic. A lot of the confusion is actually related to journalists not even understanding basic statistics (the maths behind it).
I feel much less confused getting my information first hand from the scientist in those press conferences.
Viral vector random effect...
More studies really needed for such new vaccine. Was rather surprise some of the COVID-19 vaccines, especially the mRNA ones were tested only in some countries and release at warp speed. Looks like they rush it as compared to traditional in-activated viru...
The latest news here is that the Astra vaccine has been abolished permanently by the health authorities in Denmark.
This is a massive blow to our vaccination program. The other issue is the the J&J vaccine has been put on hold. The J&J is our biggest supplier. Right now it looks like I will recive my shot at the end of the summer - earliest!!! Lets see what hap...
I have no idea but I am on the same boat mentally after a full year of lockdowns. I have now seen some nasty reactions to Pfizer ones too in the family in UK but not thrombosis. Then there is that 1 in 1M chance. At this point I think I just wanna get ...
...the stinking virus and take my chance to develop self immunity than to parse through all this ridiculous data, Pharma bs and anxiety. I have had access to vaccine for last 2months but just can't pull the trigger. A lot of ppl just don't trust the big p...