patrick_y
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Yes, you're right!
You're right, but many times a watchmaker will just regulate the movement after the initial assembly and not perform a second assembly. The second assembly is really something quite special as it's not entirely necessary, only necessary if you want to nearly eliminate scratchmarks on plates since these plates that are prone to scratchmarks will be decorated only for the second assembly. You'll also notice that new movement architecture is going to have lots of plates and bridges (chronographs are going to start having everything covered up) so that way the movement is less visible. Manufactures will claim this is for accuracy as more plates add rigidity to the movement, but it's also because the movements are cheaper to build and easier to maintain. Bigger pieces and fewer of them generally can help reduce costs.
Pantone Color of the Year...
Last year was Blue, this year is Grey...these people must be psychics 🧙🏻♂️ Can they define something more happier 😅 ...
Great looking 5960, Raymond.
I like it even better than the blue dial version. Best, V.
Thanks my friend...I thought about the Blue version as well.
Then I feel we already seen too many blue dials in recent years, hence I chose this original version. Have a wonderful weekend.
That’s a nice recognition Prof....makes me feel I did the right thing 👍🏻🙏🏻.
Yes I thought the grey strap will match better than the original brown. I’m all ready for color of the year 😊 ...
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An amazing piece... is it a new addition? If so congrats and perhaps we have to revise the Purist roll call and add another 5960 !
I got this in June 2020
Thanks Keks and I think I did add in the roll call...to my surprise, SS is not the rarest (here is the polls, assuming it’s a good representation and also from C24) so I feel the Pt versions offers great value. Of course your LC version is the special one...
One of Patek's requirements for Grand Complication is that the watch has to be double-assembled.
The 5960 movement is not double assembled. But it's definitely a great timepiece, I like it more than some grand complications!
Double assembled?? Like Lange?
Wow, I didn’t know that, don’t remember seeing them advertise.
It's not an advertised fact.
Lange is one of the few brands who do it for every watch they make (currently, but not always in the past, and they may change this for the future). But they didn't invent this idea, this is an idea that has been in practice for decades with many other hi...
Got it, read your response below. Thank you....strange still the procedures are not standardized.
Many complications or grand complications are built from based calibers. I would imagine an AC + Chrono should be complicated enough to be carefully assembled following the same procedure listed below...all of them needs to be regulated, I assume to ensur...
Yes, you're right!
You're right, but many times a watchmaker will just regulate the movement after the initial assembly and not perform a second assembly. The second assembly is really something quite special as it's not entirely necessary, only necessary if you want to nea...
This would suggest the 5960's movement is made in an architecture designed for high quality mass production...
Keep in mind, in a special low-volume production watch, the parts don't always fit together perfectly. The watchmaker has to troubleshoot, file down some pieces, shave some pieces, etc. to get things to fit. That's why the watch is not usually fully decor...
Thanks for the detail explanation Patrick...
If I look at their perpetual calendars, whether it’s 240 Q, or 324 S Q, they don’t seem to be that complicated as compared to the 5960....thinking Chronographs are more complicated than PC? Also, forget about secondary skewed pricing, these 5960/5905s are...
In addition to what Patrick said, let me add that, at least informally, you can view the "cutoff" for Grand Complications at the perpetual calendar OR split second chrono level.
If a watch has *at least* one of PC, split second, or of course tourbillon, MR, etc., then you can expect to find it in the GC collection. (This is of course a nonexhaustive list; see for instance the sky charts, which have also been included in the GC co...
Thanks Fab...I do understand where the cutoff is from their website...
I’m just did not understand why 2 complications not equal to 1 grand complication 😉 No worries. It is what it is and I’m sure PP has a reason and like what Patrick explained, it’s their way they manufactured the movements.
Yes, the pricing is a good indicator, but not a perfect indicator...
Supposedly a 240Q is a Grand Complication movement but not the Chronograph annual calendar from a 5960. It's hard to say whether a chronograph is more complicated than a perpetual calendar. Chronographs of varying variety (cam-type, column-wheel-type, ver...
Permit me to explain...
1. Watch parts are decorated, some watch parts that are near adjustment areas (where scratches may occur) are not highly decorated. 2. Watch movement is assembled. Fitment issues are noted and adjusted. 3. Watch movement is tested, regulated, and adjusted...
Wonderful watch.
Ticks so many boxes for me. Absolutely love the original 5960p. Enjoy your complication. It does so much. I’ve actually got mine on today cheering me up on a grey Monday. M. ...
The blue might be popular, but your gray is
super COOL 😎! Good of you to have taken a wrist shot with your dog 🐶 in the background ! Very subtle ! 👍
Marty is so fun to have, only regret is not enough videos and photos when we first got him...
When he was only 2 weeks young... Here’s another We have so much happiness playing with him 😂 ...
