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WTF!!
Why would they "whore" out a Perpetual Chronograph? Okay.. I can understand a 5130..Munich dial.. great.. no sweat. But.. a PERPETUAL CHRONOGRAPH?!?!?! They never made nor would dare to make a LE for the 1518, 2499, 3970 or 5970.. what the hell gives now as the series continues? Clearly there is more supply than demand and they are just trying to move them. This is going to kill the 5270 as a collector piece in my opinion. Ridiculous!
A limited edition 5270G
Just curious if anyone knows anything about a 50 piece only limited edition of 5270G? The complete reference number is 5270G-015, and it is supposed to come with a different dial. What is the cause of this celebrated creation? And how do you like it compa...
That picture looks so off to me..
Look at the tach below the 19 17 15.. I am thinking it's a fake.
Tachy+blue font+Wg hands and index....
... Thats the difference, but not sure what to think about it, if of course its true info
I am not sure what to make of this either...
.....and haven't been able to get hold of any reliable source yet.... I will say that i like the special edition more!
May I ask ...
from where you have the picture and info? I am not aware of this version. Oliver
Trust me this is real!
This special edition piece is offered to me by my authorized dealer in Germany. I was told that this is part of a Patek exhibition held in Munich and apart from many Patek clocks and pocket watches there are a few limited edition watches, and this 5270G-0...
you just saw a photo?
If i may, its quite risky to swap your 5270G for this one, just based on this pics. The texture of the dial seems different. The final decision will be based on how much am i ready to put on top of my 5270G. Even though it looks nice, if there is too much...
INTRIGUING.
Well now you have my full attention, I want to see live pics haha. My AD in Seattle is getting in a 5270G in two weeks, I haven't seen it in the metal and am still wearing my 5970G and 3970P. I'm curious if this is available in Germany if it is possible t...
If there is any chance to take pictures ...
next week, I will do it - for sure :-) Stay tuned! Oliver
Will you be there?
Oliver, will you be at the Patek exhibition in Munich? It would be great if someone can take some life pictures of this special edition.
Someone has to ...
do it :-) Seriously, I will be there and try to cover as much as I can. Some PuristS will be there as well. Any more out there would like to join us? Just let me know :-) Oliver
There is an embargo ...
until next week, but then I will update you all. Stay tuned :-) Oliver
Now....
.....this would have been a big temptation had it been released as a standard rather than special edition. Eagerly awaiting your embargo deadline!!
let's say its true...
.... it is very unlikely that Patek makes it a limited edition. Patek never makes limited except for commemoration of an AD or anniversaries. Advanced research are their limited edition only model.
Final Review
Bulliondesk and I looked at it next to his 5270G last night. They would have to change the location of the chromos in the movement to get the tach's to fit. They just cant change the dial. Movement alignment doesn't match.
Not sure about that...
It seems possible to me. I took one picture from here and another from the Patek site and tried to overlay them in Photoshop. As I am not really a Photoshop-expert, the result is not so great, but it seems to me that the positions of the hands, date etc m...
You should do it again ...
without wine ;-) Just look at Georg´s post :-) Cheers, Oliver
Wrong Analysis: Technically Impossible Dial
It is not possible that Patek will launch such a dial on a chronograph. The arc at 6 o'clock does not correspond to the proper time interval which will make a minute longer then 60 seconds i.e., traveling a longer distance (and obviously the second hand w...
I guess...
......all will be revealed shortly but the decision to end the 5270G production suits me fine!
That can be easily solved...
by adjusting the travel distance between the indices on the 'arc' to result in the proper distance. Magnus
What do you mean?...not possible! It is!
It took one look to see that the pic of 5270 is Patek. It is original, it will come exactly this way. It is already offered to me. Best regards
Will you be ordering one?
Tempus, I think I am going to order mine. Will you be ordering one as well? Personally, I like it much more than my current 5270G.
I'm not sure...
I must see it live, maybe...To me it is nicer than the regular production. Regards
Confirmed! And another limited as well
its a 50 pcs German limited edition for the Patek corner in Munich. Along with 5130G and R with a new guilloche and munich on the dial. Limited to 25 pcs.
WTF!!
Why would they "whore" out a Perpetual Chronograph? Okay.. I can understand a 5130..Munich dial.. great.. no sweat. But.. a PERPETUAL CHRONOGRAPH?!?!?! They never made nor would dare to make a LE for the 1518, 2499, 3970 or 5970.. what the hell gives now ...
Relax :))
maybe its just me, but i dont see the big deal about it. About the 1518, 2499, and 3970... Each one had different series, where pushers were round or square, different crowns, different hands. All this is not new at all. Consider it as a 2nd series :) If ...
Oh boy
Every Patek collector should now worry that Patek is no longer protecting the collector. This has been speculated for a couple years. This is a result on over pricing and over producing the 5270G. I own one. It blows my 5970 away. However, I know for a fa...
Oh Boy! :))
You make it sound like Patek will boxe in the hublot category. Just to clarify, AP live on the RO model, is all kind of variations, with all the LE's... but its one model :) Same for hublot, that is trying to diversify more. Patek makes only limited editi...
Understand your positioning given history
However, this is different. This is actually a dump! I know for a fact. They are not making 50 new pieces. They stopped producing the 5270G in Jan ( I talked to the watchmaker for 10 min that is responsible for the piece last summer in Geneva). They are t...
strangely...
... i find this one less attractive. The dial feels "dry" a bit like the 5204P and 5170G. While our 5270G has a brushed texture that plays fantastically with light. AND the oxydized hands and markers, that are really fantastic and contrast very well. Real...
Am I the only one who thinks the dial just looks completely off..
First glance I honestly thought this has to be a fake because the dial looks terrible. Look how pushed off the dial is towards the right. Nothing is aligned correctly, it's completely off center. The numbers are completely smushed from 100-225. And the di...
I like the tach too
but like it was stated above it will not be accurate given the dip. They should have faded it out like the 5970. Here is a pic of mine I have been approved for a 5204p and can get it before the end of the year, but now I am now questioning taking it given...
So true!
i totally agree with you. What stroke me the 1st day ( 1st night ) i wore my 5270G, was that in very low light conditions, i could read it perfectly! 2 reasons for that : The texture of the dial "sucked" the little light available.... and the markers and ...
not my cup of tea....
... at all. That color like a fake patina, feels like a vintage wanna be. Then again, some might like, i prefer much more the 1st version. If we talk about 1st series :) its much more appealing
Agree..
myopiccoog and I sat next to each other when trying it on.. here it is on me. Has anyone actually received a 1st production oxidized version of the 5204? I know a few who have one but with the silver dials and markers. I MUCH prefer the oxidized like the ...
My guess...
... pure speculation based on my info. 1st batch was a around 4-5 pcs that were delivered to the Patek Salon. Now i don't know if all the salons Patek got the 1st version. Maybe Paris and London didn't or just London... we need serious insiders on this on...
dial change?
Since the 5204 is a true application piece (at least at this point), can you have the dial changed before you take delivery? to some contrast colors or whatever you prefer!
It should be possible...
... if you have a good relation with them. But i doubt its something standard
About "dumping movements" i don't agree....
... there will be a new 5270 in a new metal, next year for the 175th anniversary. Maybe Rg or yellow, or even platinum, i don't know. Especially that the Wg is being discontinued, leaving room for a new metal. But they will need the movements for that new...
They are not dumping movements
They are literally dumping already made 5270G. ADs are not taking what is made to Jan. These watches are sitting in Geneva. They are literally changing the dials on overstock. Has nothing to do with Movements. They can put that movement in any perp calend...
i see what u mean...
... revamping the dial and throwing it as LE's is a smart way. I see the positive side, its good that geneva didn't overflowed their dealers with pieces that will sit in the window of their shops. My dealer told me that he has a few customers that want a ...
Great news then!
If they are taking 50 unsold 5270Gs out of the market and changing the dial to make a LE, then that will make the standard 5270G rarer in the future. This is surely good news for collectors, no? I am not saying I agree with Patek's strategy, but I am tryi...
Gents, some of you should calm down a bit.
We already discuss a piece which still is under embargo and maybe it was a wrong decision by me to keep it running at this time. The embargo was already broken, but not by PuristSPro. It was broken by AD´s and insiders, but I trust they haven´t been aware...
honestly, it's still under control...
... a little "wtf" here or there is ok considering the shock of the news. What matters is that discussions are not degenerating into hate/rage/value/money arguments. We are counting on you for live pics. Can't wait to see it live, even thinking of going t...