FabR[Senior Patek Moderator]
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Welcome Elyssa! I don't hold a PhD in psychology like you do, but let me tell you: By *seeking* a Patek Philippe, you understand more about the Brand and its philosophy than most long-term collectors! :-)
Oct 12, 2023,18:26 PM
PS: Yes, I know EVERYTHING, but that's not a surprise! ![smile](https://storage.googleapis.com/pubzapuscentral/watchprosite/openwysiwyg/smiley/smile.gif)
PPS: Thanks for the further info you've given to our members, beyond gender and age from your first post. That was helpful, and I'm glad you received so many useful replies. So let me also briefly add my personal suggestion in response: The 5119R (note that R stands for Rose gold) was my own first Patek in 2008, and look what happened later.....so this is one that I often suggest to collectors "seeking" to approach the Calatrava line with a beautiful, modern, iconic timepiece
Here are a few pictures taken last summer in another very warm place (Italy!). The first two are on my wrist and the third on my girlfriend's. I didn't take measurements, but I'm pretty sure your 5.5" wrist would easily fit in between. Hence, chances are a 5119 will look wonderful on you as well, whichever the gold color!
I hope this helps Doctor, and please keep us updated on your decision!
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Cheers,
FabR (Patek moderator)
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Woman seeking a classic calatrava
By: Lyssb : October 12th, 2023-02:39
I am a 37 year old woman looking to get a Calatrava. I am repeatedly drawn to the 3919 or 5119. I don’t care for a ladies reference as I don’t like small face watches and accordingly I believe the 3919 could be a good middle ground. My questions are would...
Perhaps try the ref. 4897
By: vitalsigns : October 12th, 2023-03:04
It’s as big as the 3919 at 33mm and a more fashionable ladies piece. ...
A few additional details may help
By: Arronax : October 12th, 2023-03:15
For example your wrist shape and size as well as the intended use (business, private, etc...). I was recently in business meetings with smaller framed ladies wearing a pink gold cartier santos dumont xl and a 44mm stainless steel panerai which definitely ...
By: Lyssb : October 12th, 2023-16:38
My wrist circumference is 5.5 inches - diameter 2". Intended use is more private, but could be business, as well.
Are there any watch dealers in your area where you can try them on?
By: Carlos22 : October 12th, 2023-05:36
I always say that less is more. Unless you have a larger wrist I would say the 33mm watch would be better proportioned since it is a dressy piece. As for the metal tone, I personally would prefer yellow gold because it suits the classic style and creates ...
By: Lyssb : October 12th, 2023-16:40
This is very, very helpful and aligns with much of where I am leaning. My jewelry is 50/50 white gold and yellow gold, belt buckles yellow gold, but my Hermes handbags are all gold hardware
Trust your own sense of style and don't ask for outside opinions.
By: patrick_y : October 12th, 2023-07:11
First of all welcome... Second of all... Do understand, the quality of our answers is only based off the quality of the data we receive... I say the following to men and women: You could be a very tall man or woman with a very large wrist, and even a very...
Welcome to the forum!
By: Reuven Malter : October 12th, 2023-08:01
I had a business meeting this week and saw the 5119 in the metal for the first time. I must say it looks superb in wg. The guy wearing it was very thin so your arms might be similar. It looked so refined, so beautiful. I would buy the 5119G without a mome...
Hello and welcome to the forum
By: sham1 : October 12th, 2023-08:29
I always say that a person should wear a watch that suits his or her wrist. The 3919 is 33mm while the 5119 is 36mm. I would suggest you try both on to decide which you feel more comfortable with. One will definitely feel better than the other depending o...
Archives vs certificate
By: Lyssb : October 14th, 2023-19:40
Is having the extract from the archives just as good/equal to having the original certificate of origins?
I don't think either watch...
By: mdg : October 12th, 2023-16:02
...would be too big, unless you are very, very tiny. It also depends on how you will wear it. I have a friend with a 36mm Patek and a 40mm Daytona and both look great on her. She is petite.
By: Lyssb : October 12th, 2023-16:37
Not too tiny. 5.5" inch circumference! Thank you - these are fun but tough decisions without having them in front of me!
The 3919 was the first 'real' watch...
By: mdg : October 12th, 2023-16:55
...that I ever saw that made me say, "Wow!" Hard to go wrong with either or anything you really love. That's all that matters...
By: Lyssb : October 12th, 2023-16:45
I found this reference, as well: 3919SJ-001 Can anyone speak to this model over a "traditional" 3919 with black Roman numeral numbers? As in, is it more rare, more/less desirable? Certainly a bit flashier in some ways but also perhaps less so because of l...
What about this reference?
By: Lyssb : October 12th, 2023-16:46
I found this reference, as well: 3919SJ-001 Can anyone speak to this model over a "traditional" 3919 with black Roman numeral numbers? As in, is it more rare, more/less desirable? Certainly a bit flashier in some ways but also perhaps less so because of l...
go for the ref 6119g with the new manual wind clibre 30-255ps
By: golden hands : October 13th, 2023-19:15
charcoal grey dial and 39mm dia x 8.08mm high-plus the power reserve is 65 hrs 39mm would be the max for your wrist size.(draw round a piece of cardboard at 39mm diameter and cut it out and try it on your arm/wrist for size) 3919 has a porcelain dial and ...