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Very suprised to read not retrograde...
From October to January 2014, I had the opportunity to play with a 5159G and observed the retrograde hand at the end of the months on several occasions, and posted my experiences in this forum. The date hand always moved ccw at the end of the month. Never noticed the cw movement of the date hand. I must admit that the hand moves very fast, and if you were blinking at the moment it moved, you will only see the final position at 1. Then there is a chance that your brain may think it was cw. It is best to record these movements by a fast camera and then decide. It is quite easy to fool the mind, as magicians do this all the time. Please let us know how things conclude. Best Jim
my friend's 5159G retrograde (not ! ) + (protected) 5270G
Hi All, I had a mini GTG with my friend in Hong Kong. His 5159 is very nice and we tested the retrograde date hand. Guess what ? Not really retrograde because at the end the of the month the hand jumped clockwise forward to the beginning instead of backwa...
That's a nice little gathering Gordon :)
I went to try the 5159G once as it looks very nice, especially with its officer's caseback and the (non) retrograde date. Concerning this mater, I must say I didn't know it worked that way. Congratulations to him for the 5270 Blue dial. I would say he nee...
Not retrograde? That is an interesting little detail
This would be quite a "thing" as the declaration of the product would be wrong. But Patek does not seem to be too fussy about details at times if you look at their chromos with wrong scaling. Have you tried also months ending in 30 days? Maybe it moves cl...
Hi Moritz, that is a good idea but would take some time because...
yesterday my friend and I moved the date count forward (from May 29th to June 1st) by manually adjusting the hours hand because only 3 days from month end, and unless he finds his adjuster stick (or use a tooth pick) , he would probably wait for a while. ...
Very suprised to read not retrograde...
From October to January 2014, I had the opportunity to play with a 5159G and observed the retrograde hand at the end of the months on several occasions, and posted my experiences in this forum. The date hand always moved ccw at the end of the month. Never...
You sure about that?
You sure about that? I don't have a proper high speed camera, but here are some frames I did at 240 fps. Sorry for the poor quality! This is taken of my 5059, which has the same movement as the 5159. It appears to me that the date hand is a properly funct...
Your 5059 and the 5159 share not the same movement
The 5159 has got a satellite wheel for the date changes which the 5059 did not have. Best Moritz
5059 vs 5159
Do you have any more information about that? I have always heard that the 5059 and the 5159 share the same movement. Some newer 5159's have a 324 based movement as opposed to 315 on early 5159s (and all 5059s), but the main difference between 324 and 315 ...
There is very little to read abou in
the 2009 - 2010 catalogue. But the chart is hardly to understand and the the explanation is therefore not really useful. The explanation in Patek's catalogue does not mention the satellite wheel but I read it in a different article. What I understand so f...
3 vs 4 MZ
The 324 beats at 28,800 or 4 mz over the 315's 3 mz and has a slightly shorter power reserve than the 315 due to its higher cadence. The result is a less jittery seconds hand on the 324. Otherwise, they are the same.
The mechanism is designed to be a counter clockwise retrograde.
The mechanism is designed to do a CCW Retrograde. Although if you look at the design of the system, it's possible that it can do a clockwise motion without damaging itself. For the 5270, he can wait until he's ready to unwrap it. It's just a watch. And it...
Both nice pieces...
On the 5270 still sealed in plastic, yes, it is a shame that it hasn't been opened. As a reason to "break the seal", I had a brand new 5205G that I bought from my dealer in Malaysia a few years ago. Stuck it in the Bank safe box as I was moving to Hong Ko...
need motion
I think all mechanical devices need to be used and work otherwise, they prematurely dry up and need service.
GTG with two fine Pateks
Very cool pics. And good job getting your friend to take the watch out of the wrapper :) Regards, ED-209
Not quite possible to tell
by the naked eye, Gordon. I've tried too many times. And not logical either. I really doubt if Patek would have employed another mechanism in lieu of the retro movement without releasing the news to the public. It would have meant another major technical ...
Hi Francis, so you and your friend also thought you saw...
clockwise movement, right? Based on what you two had told me previously, I informed my friend and we tested it together. As I was standing next to him, I could not see the move but he said it was clockwise. What a myth!! Yes, let's get a GTG in June and l...
Yes, with a few more pairs
of eyes, we can reasonably hope to discover some truth. LOL Looking forward to our next GTG. Francis
Gordon
You should have let me know you were around - I am currently looking at a very special sealed piece in my office and awaiting the right moment to open!
Wow !! Conkers, is the special piece a Patek ? If so, I probably can...
guess which one it might be. Will go to HK soon (probably this week) and hopefully can witness the "opening" ceremony. Cheers, Gordon