Patek Philippe

Thanks, Patrick.

The watch just came back from a full service and light polish from Patek. It came with a newly minted Archives paper that confirms the movement and case numbers matching along with the 'black' dial. I know the real black dialed 5980 didn't come to market until 2011 or 2012. My watch is from 2008 (so it has a Geneve seal, ferrous hairspring, and screw-held bracelet, which real black dials didn't have this configuration). During my research on rolexforum I read a similar thread about the mystery of blue dial 5980s with CoO and Archive papers both reading 'black' or 'noir' trame which translates to 'black frame'. The thread participants seemed to concede that this was just how Patek did it back then as both the 5711 and 5712 have similar CoO/Archive documentation. If any other blue dial 5980 owners can chime in with their papers' interpretations then that would be helpful.

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Finally Joining the Patek Family: 5980

By: David Allen : July 18th, 2023-17:45

I learned about Patek on the first day of university. My new dormmate flashed a gold Calatrava on his wrist that his dad gifted him when he turned eighteen. I asked him what kind of watch it was and he told me that Patek was the greatest watchmaker in the...

Beautiful watch! But... Are you sure the papers are accurate?

By: patrick_y : July 18th, 2023-17:59

There was a noir dial version of the 5980 that had a red chronograph hand. It's not the one you have. Perhaps the seller got the papers mixed up (people are human, it's a possibility)? You should double check the papers and see if the serial number matche...

Thanks, Patrick.

By: David Allen : July 18th, 2023-18:36

Got it! Good to know!

By: patrick_y : July 18th, 2023-19:10

Black frame would make sense, as there is that ombre effect. Seems like you really did your research! I didn't know that there were different hairsprings! I'm very impressed!

Thank You !

By: David Allen : July 18th, 2023-19:39

I hope your roommate was a nice guy!

By: patrick_y : July 18th, 2023-18:07

Did he know why Patek Philippe was considered the greatest watchmaker in the world? I'd be really impressed with your roommate if he really knew what set the top watchmakers apart! But perhaps he was only repeating the marketing message. Either way, the d...