Thank you for an elaborate reply!

1) Repeater
I am a huge fan of anything musical. And having a minute repeater is a temptation.
But from the logical point of view repeaters are quite fragile and they are not as useful as before.

The first serious watch in my watch journey was a marvellous JLC Memovox that’s known for its long and loud alarm. Despite the fact that this complication is super handy I rarely used it as a phone alarm is more reliable and comfortable. The same goes for chronographs. It is nice to have it but if you really need the measure smth you are more likely to use a phone.

That’s why I don’t think I will buy a repeater anytime soon. But i definitely do not discard such a possibility😆

PP repeater that I like the most (5750) at the moment is really far from my reach.

As far as 5101 goes - the tourbillon is excessive and only makes the watch less reliable. But if this watch didn’t have it - it wouldn’t get all other features like proper hand finishing.

2) Laurent Ferrier tourbillons are sublime. The finishing is there, they are adequately thin and LF dials are fine.

It is quite funny as I actually thought about LF. In my humble opinion LF is a fair competition to 5101. I considered the sport model made of titanium with a bracelet but as I have several sport watches I am not sure I bill benefit from the third.

To be honest I suppose that 5101 is overall a tiny bit better than LF. Mostly because of the access to servicing in any part of the world.

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5101 as endgame. Yes or no?

By: ShowTime : May 19th, 2025-19:01

Dear watch enthusiasts. For a while I have been in a search of a personal grail. I suppose the Patek Philippe 5101 could be it. What I liked about the watch: - true art deco styling with unique case shape - extremely understated - decoration of the moveme...

A good reference, indeed. But an end game, not so sure. First of all because I don't know any watch which can qualify as an end game... ;)

By: amanico : May 19th, 2025-19:03

I couldn’t say any wiser.

By: ShowTime : May 19th, 2025-19:17

Did you try the watch?

Yes, I have a friend who owns it.

By: amanico : May 20th, 2025-06:24

I have seen it but not tried it on...

By: mdg : May 19th, 2025-19:07

...I like the stealth nature of it (no hole in the dial). But for a serious ($$) collector, it would be just one of many...

For now it is not easy to have many watches of such magnitude:)

By: ShowTime : May 19th, 2025-19:19

This watch is mostly worn by women, and few men will wear this watch, but it does have collection value.

By: hhooprinc826 : May 19th, 2025-19:49

I find this difficult to believe...

By: mdg : May 19th, 2025-20:17

...as most of them sit in a bank vault to begin with. Not sure why 'few men will wear this watch.' ?

But it does fall under high end game.

I personally love these watches

By: Cozmopak : May 19th, 2025-19:30

But they are slow sellers and not very popular because of the rectangular case shape I assume. There is a beautiful blue dial version that is going up for auction at Christies next week. It might go low and could be worth following.

I saw it

By: ShowTime : May 19th, 2025-19:35

Maybe blue is the most beautiful variant. I saw the watch, but i don’t have experience in auctions. The watch is a super slow seller, but I don’t like to sell watches I buy. That’s why I try hard to pick the watches I love.

If I were in the market for a 5101, I would definitely watch the one at Christies.

By: Cozmopak : May 19th, 2025-19:43

I think this watch is more suitable for women

By: hhooprinc826 : May 19th, 2025-19:47

Too big for most women

By: AndCavanaugh : May 19th, 2025-19:53

The length is 5cm+. So it doesn’t suit even some men.

By: ShowTime : May 19th, 2025-20:05

This is a relatively large watch. I have tried it on. This is not a woman's watch whatsoever

By: WatchFan1 : May 20th, 2025-14:16

It does have shock protection, KIF on the balance staff. You can't see it without taking apart the torubillon cage though.

By: AndCavanaugh : May 19th, 2025-19:49

Wow. Thank you for this detail!

By: ShowTime : May 19th, 2025-20:04

My knowledge of technical aspects has a lot of room for improvement.

It’s a beautiful one for sure.

By: Champthekid : May 19th, 2025-20:38

I especially like that the tourbillion doesn’t have a gaping hole on the dial. I haven’t figured out an end game watch for me yet. I need a certain amount of variety because there are so many great watches in existence.

Unfortunately, I don’t own this piece and haven’t

By: quattro : May 19th, 2025-21:01

even seen it in real life. But, for what it’s worth, even if I think it’s a masterpiece, two thoughts come to my mind. First, “end game” especially if Patek Philippe is concerned, evokes a minute repeater for me, ideally manual winding and with a tourbill...

The 3939 is my end game grail.

By: Cozmopak : May 19th, 2025-21:04

And there is actually a platinum example going up for auction at Christies next week as well. But I fear it will slip beyond my grasp.

Let’s just hope other collectors are too busy right now

By: quattro : May 19th, 2025-21:09

and a little miracle happens! Fingers crossed for you.

It will need to be a large miracle

By: Cozmopak : May 19th, 2025-22:03

But thank you!

Thank you for an elaborate reply!

By: ShowTime : May 19th, 2025-21:45

Two different kinds of endgame watch

By: blau : May 20th, 2025-00:52

The LF, to me, is a gorgeous understated everyday sort of watch... that is also a spectacular tourbillon. Whereas the 5101 has a MUCH stronger personality with its big elaborate rectangular art deco case. If my idea of 'endgame' was, just an everyday wear...

I couldn't agree more with what you say, blau.

By: quattro : May 20th, 2025-03:57

As, for me, the only thing that can justify the purchase of such an expensive timepiece is the pleasure of wearing it as often as possible, I think I would personally go for the LF. This 'daily wearability' issue is what bothers me concerning the 5100 to ...

Given your answers, it seems that the 5101 is quite close to fulfilling most of your dreams.

By: quattro : May 20th, 2025-03:52

And there's no doubt that it's a kind of masterpiece. To make it fully "end game", even though I'm personally attracted to colored gold, I think I would be tempted by the platinum variant. But the rose gold looks gorgeous too and I imagine the white and y...

This does tick a lot of boxes. But each watch was never an end, only a stepping stone to the next

By: seabas132 : May 20th, 2025-03:23

That's it.

By: amanico : May 20th, 2025-06:25

Re 10 day

By: time4fun : May 20th, 2025-03:41

Beautiful watch easy and pleasure tto wear And guess who liked to see it ...

Thank you so much for sharing these personal photos

By: quattro : May 20th, 2025-04:00

showing how great this timepiece can be and look on the wrist. Looking at them, I want one right now! Best, Emmanuel

Thank you for kind words

By: time4fun : May 20th, 2025-04:09

Love a gondolo

By: PaddyP : May 20th, 2025-04:47

Art deco elegance from the likes of 5010, 5014, 5111, 5124 and the 8 days. The 5101 series tourbillon however is something very special indeed..

Good to see wrist shots of this one, I thought it would look smaller. It has a great personality! Best, E.

By: eklektik : May 20th, 2025-08:50

Wow! That’s amazing. Thank you!

By: ShowTime : May 20th, 2025-12:08

How comfortable do you find it? Do you wear it for special occasions or on a daily basis?

So cool!

By: seabas132 : May 20th, 2025-12:14

End game must mean it is perfect and satisfies you fully. I like the "simplicity" of this one, defining it as "end game" would mean a lot of maturity. Best, E.

By: eklektik : May 20th, 2025-07:45

To answer the question one may need more than a month of everyday wear.

By: ShowTime : May 20th, 2025-12:05

Sometimes more. That’s why I try to get the feedback of the owners.

I just love it!

By: fmc000 : May 20th, 2025-08:37

Almost everything is perfect in this watch. Price aside, definitely way above my range, the only thing I don't like is the strap but this is just because I don't like leather straps in general; I suppose that a more casual one would make it the ideal watc...

Patek Philippe

Thank you for an elaborate reply!

5101 as endgame. Yes or no?

A good reference, indeed. But an end game, not so sure. First of all because I don't know any watch which can qualify as an end game... ;)

I couldn’t say any wiser.

Yes, I have a friend who owns it.

I have seen it but not tried it on...

For now it is not easy to have many watches of such magnitude:)

This watch is mostly worn by women, and few men will wear this watch, but it does have collection value.

I find this difficult to believe...

?

This is a very inaccurate statement.

I would love to be a woman, then, just for this reason. ;)

Today you can be : )

Cool! :))))

It is a perfect watch.

The game is never ending

I personally love these watches

I saw it

If I were in the market for a 5101, I would definitely watch the one at Christies.

I think this watch is more suitable for women

Too big for most women

The length is 5cm+. So it doesn’t suit even some men.

This is a relatively large watch. I have tried it on. This is not a woman's watch whatsoever

It does have shock protection, KIF on the balance staff. You can't see it without taking apart the torubillon cage though.

Wow. Thank you for this detail!

It’s a beautiful one for sure.

Unfortunately, I don’t own this piece and haven’t

The 3939 is my end game grail.

Let’s just hope other collectors are too busy right now

It will need to be a large miracle

Thank you for an elaborate reply!

Two different kinds of endgame watch

I couldn't agree more with what you say, blau.

Given your answers, it seems that the 5101 is quite close to fulfilling most of your dreams.

This does tick a lot of boxes. But each watch was never an end, only a stepping stone to the next

That's it.

Re 10 day

Thank you so much for sharing these personal photos

Thank you for kind words

Love a gondolo

Good to see wrist shots of this one, I thought it would look smaller. It has a great personality! Best, E.

Wow! That’s amazing. Thank you!

So cool!

End game must mean it is perfect and satisfies you fully. I like the "simplicity" of this one, defining it as "end game" would mean a lot of maturity. Best, E.

To answer the question one may need more than a month of everyday wear.

I just love it!

Straps are easily replaceable. And straps give a wide range of customisation.

Good choice ! I inspected and worn this watch in the metal and it was a

Wearing a tourbillon that only you can see is so OG.

True, there is no need in exposing the balance of the watch if it isn’t a skeleton.