Patek Philippe

I am posting a question to fellow purists... How is it that gray market dealers have several SS 5712, 5980 available in the net for sale, yet AD don't have them, and the PP Geneva boutique won't take any orders since they have maxed out their 5 year produ... 

The grey market dealers source the Nautilus (and other highly sought-after watches) from BOTH AD customers and AD directly.... AD is less willing to sell these watches to the grey dealers DIRECTLY these days as there may be "consequences" from PP about th... 

I have recently aquired a 5712 1A two weeks ago. I was offered the watch from my dealer because of my past purchases. The watch was in the A/D 's safe and never saw a display case. The "good" dealers will weed out the collectors and give them first crack ... 

Funny. I have been offered a 5712 Rose Gold from my regular AD whom I have bought several watches from. The price he listed was SGD$10K above list price. I tried to negotiate to no avail . He refused to budge as that is the 'market price'. This is coming ... 

I learned a lot from your various experiences/points of view. Based on your postings, I can see why Henri Stern needs to be vigilant to weed out the bad players, and like Sam said, allow the true AD to do the due diligence as to how to sell the pieces to ... 

to believe that Stern does not know of the corruption of AD's, and in his own way colludes with them and the gray dealers by not punishing anyone... I know that one AD who was reported for spiking prices was called yet nothing was done... With that said, ...