Patek Philippe

which one sings to you more? Also, how do you compare these to a 5970? Please be brutally honest as possible.....I just need some sense knocked onto me Cheers, CL

but it's not a fair fight in the least. Patek makes far more perpetual's of any design than they've made rattrapantes of all designs. The 3448 is a lovely watch, but I don't see "magic" in it. For wearing purposes, rather than going in the vault, never to... 

Mr. CL, i am going to be honest, 1436 is a split chrono, 3448 being a perpetual is nowhere close. Because both are vintage pieces, the choice of metal does merit , lets say, 1436J vs 3448P, rarity will get points added into your consideration. Condition i... 

I mean ref.1463 but all your points still valid Thank you very much. Cheers, CL

Whilst the others have made very valid observations about both references and indicate that it is preferable to go for a modern rather than vintage I do think,for me at least,part of the thrill of vintage watches besides finding the model if it is rare is... 

Wearing vintage is a total different experience to a modern piece. As much as I love the 5970, it lacks the appeal and allure of a 3448 when presented to me. Maybe 5 years from now, the 5970 will have the similar appeal as 3448 *CL

.... well, well, well. Slightly different, but a much closer fight. Lets see, i personally would narrow down the following : 1463J vs 3448J - i pick 3448J 1463ss vs 3448J - no doubt 1463ss 1463J vs 3448G - 3448G in a heart beat 1463R vs 3448J - 1463R 1463... 

I have very much enjoyed reading all your comments and advise. It has also caused me to carry out my own research on the threes pieces in question. I am nowhere near confident or an expert in the models concerned to offer an opinion, so I shall just conti... 

Appreciate it a lot. *CL

than the 1463J.