Patek Philippe

which one sings to you more?
Also, how do you compare these to a 5970?
Please be brutally honest as possible.....I just need some sense knocked onto me
Cheers,
CL

but it's not a fair fight in the least. Patek makes far more perpetual's of any design than they've made rattrapantes of all designs. The 3448 is a lovely watch, but I don't see "magic" in it. For wearing purposes, rather than going in the vault, never to be touched, I'd almost rather the 5396, which has all the advantages of a modern watch, and pocket the difference

As for the 5790, it's never been my favorite piece, I find it too "chunky", perhaps from the stacking of the QP module.

A

Mr. CL, i am going to be honest, 1436 is a split chrono, 3448 being a perpetual is nowhere close.  Because both are vintage pieces, the choice of metal does merit , lets say, 1436J vs 3448P, rarity will get points added into your consideration.  Condition is also very important, a mint 3448wg with original boxes and papers, compare to a well polished, hallmarks all gone, no box, no paper 1436J ... that would be something you should consider as well.

The reason why most people lean towards modern pateks, simply because to hunt down a mint condition vintage is just too difficult.  To most collectors buying a patek 5004 will probably solve the problem u are asking now.  With all the trimmings and probably with change $$. 

One other thing you need to consider, repairs and maintenance.  IF you choose a 5970, the chances of it breaking down is probably 0%.  Should your choice be it 1436, well, you better set aside 18 months, more $$ and probably some frustrations.  Auction house "A" sent a split officer case chrono for overhaul, it took 2 years, and not to mention a few hundreds of your well earned buckaroos. 

Happy hunting ....

 

I mean ref.1463 but all your points still valid
Thank you very much.
Cheers,
CL

Whilst the others have made very valid observations about both references and indicate that it is preferable to go for a modern rather than vintage I do think,for me at least,part of the thrill of vintage watches besides finding the model if it is rare is to find that one in perfect condition.In addition to this owning and wearing a vintage is totally different to a modern wristwatch and (I do not own either of the 2 references you mention) and once they have serviced properly I don't think they are any more likely to stop working than a modern.I think perhaps the emotional rather than rational overweighs the decision with the truly passionate vintage collector.

Roni

Wearing vintage is a total different experience to a modern piece.
As much as I love the 5970, it lacks the appeal and allure of a 3448 when presented to me.
Maybe 5 years from now, the 5970 will have the similar appeal as 3448
*CL

.... well, well, well.  Slightly different, but a much closer fight.  Lets see, i  personally would narrow down the following :

1463J vs 3448J - i pick 3448J

1463ss vs 3448J - no doubt 1463ss

1463J vs 3448G - 3448G in a heart beat

1463R vs 3448J - 1463R

1463ss vs 3448G - thats a hard one, i pick 3448G

1463R vs 3448G - that my friend, i would take both.

all the above, we are talking about even steven condition, 88%+, should either model presents itself with original box and papers, we call that Happy worries.  The little man inside of yourself will give you that answer.

 

I have very much enjoyed reading all your comments and advise.

It has also caused me to carry out my own research on the threes pieces in question.

I am nowhere near confident or an expert in the models concerned to offer an opinion, so I shall just continue to follow the thread.

CL, good hunting. 

Appreciate it a lot.
*CL

than the 1463J.