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I have little doubt that the six chosen owners of the Grandmaster Chime
Oct 30, 2018,10:07 AM
were among the best Patek clients who would be pretty well heeled so I cannot imagine any of them needing the money. And if the owner did pass away, I would have thought the watch would be passed on to the next generation. I suppose the beneficiary of the watch might not quite appreciate the unquantifiable value of this gem (or perhaps he/she did!!! )
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It saddens me
By: sham1 : October 30th, 2018-09:48
to notice today that one of the six lucky owners of the Grandmaster Chime has decided to sell his watch. While browsing a popular used website, I could not help but notice the £11.7 million plus price tag being asked for which is almost 5 times the origin...
I have little doubt that the six chosen owners of the Grandmaster Chime
By: sham1 : October 30th, 2018-10:07
were among the best Patek clients who would be pretty well heeled so I cannot imagine any of them needing the money. And if the owner did pass away, I would have thought the watch would be passed on to the next generation. I suppose the beneficiary of the...
Thanks Raymond
By: sham1 : October 30th, 2018-12:33
but perhaps it should pass at least over one generation?!
It really should!
By: sham1 : July 8th, 2020-05:46
Maybe not every Patek bought will be passed down to the next generation but one would have hoped that the lucky owners of the Grandmaster Chime would observe this tradition. Your dad did!
😉😉😉 [nt]
By: cbb in honor of Chamnong Bhirombhakdi : July 25th, 2020-05:05
Thank you for saying so
By: sham1 : October 30th, 2018-20:52
but unfortunately in my family, the bad sheep is the one who buys too many watches!!
Sorry
By: cbb in honor of Chamnong Bhirombhakdi : July 8th, 2020-05:40
I can almost guaranteed the sales will not happen!
Too right!!!
By: sham1 : October 30th, 2018-10:20
At that price, they should hand deliver it to any part of the world for free or at least offer to arrange a private jet for you to collect the watch. That is afterall the Patek way!
lol! [nt]
By: emcquillan : October 30th, 2018-10:50
He he [nt]
By: ChristianDK : October 30th, 2018-10:54
Interesting thought process Patrick.
By: sham1 : October 30th, 2018-11:32
Quite odd also that this watch is being sold by an Australian dealer. I am not implying that an Australian used dealer is not qualified to sell this watch but one would have thought it that if this was a genuine advertisement that it would be sold in the ...
That surprised me as well.
By: patrick_y : October 30th, 2018-11:59
I'd think the six owners (if it is truly only six) are clustered in those regions as well. Six is really an incredibly low number. Definitely hand picked by the Sterns themselves.
That is very fair!
By: sham1 : July 8th, 2020-05:48
But I understand that there are two prominent Patek collectors in Thailand so one has missed out!
Me too Patrick!
By: sham1 : July 8th, 2020-14:19
It would be like being nominated for an Oscar!
Yes...
By: patrick_y : October 31st, 2018-09:44
Price came out at $45,000. Then 5 days later... Price was $46,000.
Agree! [nt]
By: cbb in honor of Chamnong Bhirombhakdi : July 8th, 2020-05:42
If only all Pateks
By: sham1 : October 30th, 2018-11:44
could be sold for 5 times the original retail price!! okay, okay I am being too greedy here, I would settle for 4 times the original retail price!!
Agreed 100% Gordon!
By: sham1 : October 30th, 2018-11:39
The asking price is quite ludicrous considering a not too dissimilar 6300G is currently in production. But I am wondering who in their right sense of mind decided on the asking price and if the advertisement was genuine, what was the end target price that...
I always thought that the list of people
By: sham1 : October 30th, 2018-11:47
who ended up with a watch like the 5175R would be kept highly confidential. We know of one fellow purist who has one but only because the watch was shown in the forum. I can only guess who the other five lucky owners were. And yes, you are reading too man...
Exactly my thoughts Gordon.
By: patrick_y : October 30th, 2018-12:03
Seller wants to compile a list of wealthy watch collectors accustomed to overpaying for watches. This list alone is worth something. Google spends all day compiling lists and databases that are then sold to advertisers who want to target a specific segmen...
You guys are reading the same spy books!! :-)
By: sham1 : October 30th, 2018-12:08
but I seriously doubt anyone in the market for a grandmaster chime would pay that amount of money and therefore, would not contact the dealer in the first place.
And thank goodness Mr Fleming's intentions were not realised! :-)
By: sham1 : October 31st, 2018-11:29
as it helped Aston survive but saying that, it means the DB5 has become quite unaffordable. In fact all the DBs from the 50s and 60s seem to have no upper price ceiling. As for Rolex, I dare say if James had been wearing a Submariner, it would be competin...
Thanks Patrick!
By: sham1 : November 1st, 2018-10:42
I have learned something new!
Glad you did...
By: patrick_y : November 1st, 2018-11:26
With a charismatic leader who has not been shy saying he wants to bring Aston Martin to a new segment of women buyers, a new designer, and a fresh product line; Aston Martin has gone public. After being a company that has gone bankrupt seven times. This p...
Eeeks!
By: sham1 : November 1st, 2018-12:08
I certainly hope not, at least not during my life time. I would miss the sound of the V8 or V12 burbling away at idle. How did we manage to move from the Grandmaster Chime to Aston Martin??!!
Ha! Ha!
By: sham1 : November 1st, 2018-19:08
That's the beauty of this forum Patrick!!
It is quite large to honest
By: sham1 : October 30th, 2018-12:06
at 47mm plus and is more a demonstration of Patek's technical prowess especially in the field of minute repetition and grand sonnerie. Still, it would be nice to know that the owners did wear their watches at least on very special occasions.
Oh wow!!
By: sham1 : October 30th, 2018-12:23
Spoilt for choice!!! To see one is amazing, to see two is almost unfair to the eyes
I can't take this!!
By: sham1 : October 30th, 2018-13:01
Way too much at 4am in Kuala Lumpur!! Am I dreaming???!!!
I think I figured it out. Trump likely does not own the Grand master Chime.
By: Costa (aka Connie) : October 31st, 2018-00:26
Back during 2016 US election there was an article in Forbes magazine which picked a watch which they thought would fit the personality of each presidential thought that The grand master chime would be fitting for candidate Trump. I guess big ego equals b...
Phew! Thank God!!! :-)
By: sham1 : October 31st, 2018-00:36
If size matters, he should be walking around with a U Boat watch!
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By: Nono01 : October 30th, 2018-12:23
So six owners but there are eight Grandmasters listed on that website. hmmmm
To clarify
By: sham1 : October 30th, 2018-12:31
there were only six 5175Rs produced for the 175th anniversary of Patek Philippe in 2014. The 6300G that you see on the website came out later and is not a limited edition watch although it is an application piece ie Patek would vet each and every potentia...
To clarify
By: sham1 : October 30th, 2018-12:31
there were only six 5175Rs produced for the 175th anniversary of Patek Philippe in 2014. The 6300G that you see on the website came out later and is not a limited edition watch although it is an application piece ie Patek would vet each and every potentia...
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By: Nono01 : October 30th, 2018-12:56
My bad. tnx for clarification!
You are absolutely correct!
By: sham1 : October 30th, 2018-12:55
Seven were produced, one for the museum and six for sale. I tend not to count the one that is not for sale!
Yes it is the prerogative for any collector to sell a watch
By: sham1 : October 30th, 2018-21:04
but this is THE Grandmaster Chime, one of the most special wrist watches ever made. I personally feel that if the collector had wanted to sell it, he should have offered it to Patek first as the company had given him the privilege to acquire it. Assuming ...
Sham! Don't be sad.
By: TheMadDruid : October 30th, 2018-14:24
Now there's one available for you!
Not necessarily.
By: TheMadDruid : October 31st, 2018-07:27
You just need to be quick.
Only one slight problem
By: sham1 : October 31st, 2018-19:40
I doubt with Mike around if we are going to get any wrist time or any time with the watch!!! He might however reward us with one of his Richard Lange Pour Le Merite (he has two!!! )
😎😂 [nt]
By: FabR : October 31st, 2018-20:23
Regardless aesthetically the watch is way too much...
By: SALMANPK : October 30th, 2018-15:12
The case engraving and the lugs extended from the case just don't do it for me. Would have been more interesting to see the watch with all these complications in a simple elegant case. S
Thank you Sham....
By: SALMANPK : October 31st, 2018-04:15
That does look much better, actually its very nice, never saw it before. Thank you again for sharing that. S
I am glad you like it Salman
By: sham1 : October 31st, 2018-09:18
It is a quite amazing watch and I am glad Patek added this to its regular range even if the waiting list is many years long and via application only.
You may be sad
By: watch-er : November 1st, 2018-06:32
but sometimes life forces us to do things for our continued existence. Regardless of how much money a person may have , this is a lot of money to have tied up in a watch and perhaps in this case it needed to be put to better use.
I agree to an extent
By: sham1 : November 1st, 2018-10:08
but there are four watches in the history of watch making that have been allocated to some very special collectors, many of whom are probably worth more than we can count. These four watches are not quite priceless but their complexities and exclusitivity...
I try to be understanding when I see
By: beejo : December 11th, 2018-09:36
Collectors selling there special pieces,Specially when it’s done when done twice it’s much worse,I recall you sold your 5575G and 5131R (Sealed) .Correct me if I am wrong please.
Your recollection is correct!
By: sham1 : December 11th, 2018-09:50
I loved my 5575G but most unfortunately, the watch was accidentally scratched by a friend's diamond ring and it was never the same afterwards. The 5575G remains my all time favourite world timer due to its enchanting moon and I would even consider buying ...
Point taken!
By: sham1 : December 11th, 2018-10:30
I think firstly it is worth mentioning that this watch is being advertised for more than 5 times its RRP which is quite astonishing by any standards as the watch is four years old at most. Secondly is the fact that this watch is being sold on the internet...
I am gobsmacked!
By: sham1 : July 8th, 2020-06:01
An unofficial world record if it actually sold at that price!
More likely than not!
By: sham1 : July 8th, 2020-08:21
The Grandmaster Chime is an amazing watch but $50m is a huge amount of money even for this masterpiece.
Ok, confirmed fake
By: sham1 : July 9th, 2020-16:02
based on CBB's confirmation in her latest post.