Patek Philippe

They give some advices on cars, furnitures, wines and... watches. Look at this one: The two " stars " are the Volvo P 1800 and the Patek 175Th Anniversary, especially the Chronograph. I have some doubts when I read that the P 1800 will soon reach 100 000 ...  

But the price of pleasure wearing a patek & owning one is most often priceless. Whether complicated or simple its great to own. Image wise it tells a lot about the owner. That he is lover of fine things , toys etc. my opinion. Best! Geross

What can make someone pick this one vs another ? There are many references which would perfectly answer to the question of THE watch to buy. I guess it was a fun exercize for his article and it was quite an easy choice to make a selection out of the 175th... 

Car so high! ;) Best, Nicolas

As much as I like the P1800, especially in the 3 door wagon ES guise, they are sadly way too common and not nearly exotic enough to get close to the price envisaged. Even though they are amongst the most collectable Volvos, they have relatively humdrum un... 

The Volvo is indeed a very nice collection car. Cheers, Mark

Ten years ago, I was tempted to jum on one, when they were around 5 K Euros. I got one two years and a half ago, and paid it much more. Nowadays, they go for an even higher price. But to say that they will soon reach 100 000 USD, well, there is still a wo... 

I have to be more patient and stop drinking my 2005 Bordeaux! I don't know about the rest though :)

lol kidding of course Looks like you have a winning combo 5110 and 1800 Both P Ofcourse! Best Miranda

On the price of a P1800. If he is talking about a fully restored car disassembled down to the frame and rebuilt ground up restoration I a sure 100k is reasonable as the restoration would most like cost 50k. Great car. Bill

For the moment, a very nice P 1800 is more circa 40 K is interestingly the double than the price, three years ago. Best, Nicolas

The money you would spend to restore the car to its original like new conditions would be much more than any buyer would pay. But I know you are all about the pleasure and like watches these are not investments but objects to cherish and enjoy. Bill

You paid... I mean: You pay 20 K Euros for a nice P 1800. So pay 20 K Euros to restore it, you will sell it around 30 K Euros. BUT that is, from my point of view, not that important. The pleasure to drive it flawlessly is priceless. The pleasure the car w... 

I think you described the situation very well - as long as there is little potential for the resale value of an oldtimer to more or less compensate for the investment lavished on it, the market will remain cautious. And the main elements that drive values... 

That almost each week someone comes to me to ask me if it is for sale. And the funnier thing is that my perpetual answer is... No, thanks. ;) Pleasure is the best of investments. 850 T5 R, the " brick "? That is a really cool car! Best, Nicolas

Yes, the brick. In a European context in the rarest combination, namely black, not yellow, and a sedan, not an estate - I suppose the US would possibly have other combinations. One of only 2500 in total - in this combo it was the only one in the country, ... 

PuristSPro is not about money and we try to talk about price as little as possible as it detracts from the collector's experience. On the other hand, FORBES is all about money money money. So I approach this with a balance of collector mentality and yet a... 

Reaching the 100, 000 USD soon is not very realistic. Now, if we are speaking about quite long term, maybe 10 years, then... The car is quite rare. I see much more vintage Porsches than P 1800s on the road and in the Streets, and most of them are not in g... 

Of course I default to your expertise with the P1800. But don't be surprised if it goes up in value greater and sooner than you thought. Look at vintage air cooled Porsches, many 993s doubled in the past 3 years in the United States and have become very v... 

Count around 30 / 40 K Euros for a very nice one. But 100 000? That's another story. Best my friend. Nicolas

I actually owned a P1800 station wagon. Very cool looking car but it was a nightmare keeping it running. Finally sold it to a guy who loves tinkering with old Volvos. Sorry Forbes, think you got this one wrong.

It is pretty reliable, though. Dépends on the condition. Mine didn't drive a lot, before I got it... The first 10 K Kilometers, I tested the different issues. Since then at the exception of the clutch which was not changed for 20 years ( ! ), no issues, j...