Patek Philippe

Are these comparable chronographs. I realize one has an inhouse movement while the other has an F.Piguet 1185 derivative, but I would like to take the perspective that the origin of the movement does not count toward the comparison. All other factors appl... 

for the same price as 1 Patek 5980 realy bothers me These RO can be found at your AD easily with a nice discount whilt the 5980 can't. The 5980 will cost you 3 times the AP RO. I never really understood the price of the 5980. I like the watch and the bran... 

I remember that you really loved your AP Royal Oak Chronograph and that you were very happy with the watch when you acquired it and the fact it had an outsourced movement didn't bother you. Overall, the Nautilus and the Royal Oak share a lot in common, bo... 

RO=1972 Nautilus=1976 and both were designed by Gerald Genta

...that I love both the RO and Nautilus, and none of Gerald Genta watches. Hmm.

Wow, I didn't know that Gerald Genta was a part of the watch design. I should've figured the Nautilus was 1976, the 30 year anniversary just elapsed. Thanks!

Hi, In fact the 5960 and 5980 are not the only chronographs with vertical clutch. There are Frederic Piguet chronograph calibres with vertical clutch too. It has been the case for long, well before PP issued its auto chrono calibre. I don't know if all FP... 

Thanks for clearing that up! I'm still personally having a hard time deciding which one I like more; the 5712 or the 5711. I love the simplicity of the 5711, it reminds me of a simple Royal Oak. But I love the movement of the 5712 and although I don't lov... 

but as Bruno said its not worth 3 times more than the ROO. I actually do like the Nautilus but I can't seem to get them to fit my wrist correctly so I would take the ROO for sure.

Give me your wrist! I'll make it fit! With the exception of the fitment problem, do you have any other reservations about the 5980? I think the 5980 is a great watch. I really like it. I am actually really starting to really like the Chronograph line. I s... 

I happen to like the watch a lot. To be honest its no just the Nautilus that I have bracelet problems with but almost all bracelets that don't have some sort of micro adjustment. I like to wear my watch very snug but not super tight. I've tried the PP lin... 

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Cal 3126, which is based on the excellent cal 3120 is increasingly found in the later models> For example, the Navy, Safari, Volcano produced after around 2008 are equipped with cal 3126. I dislike the 5980 because it looks too thick for the Nautilus case...