PP is fully capable of making - and have made - movements that can fill the case, or rather the other way around.

Jul 24, 2020,04:08 AM
 

The question here is what case you want to use to shelter the movement. That is a choice to be made. This watch has a case with a diameter larger than the chosen movement, I do not necessarily see that as something wrong in itself. What we like, or do not like, is a personal choice and cannot be argued - but it does not make this watch in any way inferior to others. But that again is my personal opinion is could be valid only to me - to go with my own argument.

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Patek Philippe 5196P.

 
 By: amanico : July 24th, 2020-03:37
Perfection is not its goal with its too centered small second and movement. It is all about charm... And charm it has a lot! I deeply miss mine. Best, Nicolas ...  

If charm was the goal...

 
 By: r0gue : July 24th, 2020-03:58
Then they have hit the mark. Ok, so.. deep in the mind of a watch-nerd contemplation coming up. This watch tortures me. I find it so very compelling to me -- because as you noted, it is damn charming, and yet if I'm honest, it also frustrates me. It frust... 

PP is fully capable of making - and have made - movements that can fill the case, or rather the other way around.

 
 By: xyz123abc : July 24th, 2020-04:08
The question here is what case you want to use to shelter the movement. That is a choice to be made. This watch has a case with a diameter larger than the chosen movement, I do not necessarily see that as something wrong in itself. What we like, or do not... 

I hear you...

 
 By: r0gue : July 24th, 2020-15:09
I just look at that Ref 96 that's been floating around here lately and go crazy thinking how a better placement of that small seconds would perfect this watch. Alas...

+1

 
 By: mahesh : July 26th, 2020-02:04
i think PP was quite smart in dial design to match the small movement. our forvesta have written wonderfully about it...enjoyable read for sunday Best, mahesh.,

I say I can never own it.

 
 By: r0gue : July 24th, 2020-15:07
And as a WIS, I full well know that's a hollow threat. Haha! Nothing surprises me with my actions relating to this obsession.

;) [nt]

 
 By: amanico : July 24th, 2020-15:49

I can understand that

 
 By: xyz123abc : July 24th, 2020-04:02
This is a very beautiful watch, and as far as I can understand, made to the best specifications available.

Very nice 5196P, Nicolas. I have been thinking of acquiring this beauty for a long time.

 
 By: joenghenry : July 24th, 2020-04:58
The slightly centrally located small second is due to its small caliber hand wound movement inside. Patek is very clever in the dial design, the Breguet style solid gold numerals create an illusion that the small second is perfectly located. Besides it's ... 

Ahh, this one!

 
 By: ZSHSZ : July 24th, 2020-05:02
As many times I put it on my wrist, I just don’t want to let it go... It’s one of the few that with all the imperfections still feels close to perfection. Thank you for reminding me of it.

Agreed πŸ‘ [nt]

 
 By: holdemchamp1225 : July 24th, 2020-14:24

Do you own one? [nt]

 
 By: amanico : July 25th, 2020-05:54

Looks neat. Charming watch. Tfs. πŸ‘

 
 By: geross : July 24th, 2020-15:14
When you wind it, its like kissing your girlfriend or your wife. Such joy. 😎 Cheers my friend. 🍻 Geross.

Agreed. ;) [nt]

 
 By: amanico : July 25th, 2020-05:53

One of the most beautiful modern Calatrava

 
 By: Watcholic_id : July 25th, 2020-05:47
Breguet numerals & white metal... splendid!

Absolutely love these.

 
 By: Miles_151 : July 25th, 2020-05:57
I am fighting the urge.... at the moment. M.

IMO, people get carried away with the ratio of case to movement criticism.

 
 By: BuffaloWatch : July 25th, 2020-15:27
The watch looks and feels great. I like the strap in the photo, the matte finish grounds the brilliant finish. I might make that change to mine.

Been thinking about this one so much lately...

 
 By: i_am_Sam : July 26th, 2020-21:30
of course there's always complaints about the sub second dial that's too small and too centered But it is charming as it is! Sam