Officine Panerai

Pls check this out on my collection of Panerai Submersible .

Thanks for viewing.

Pls comments.

Cheers

Bugatti Veyron

I don't know what game you're playing, but I don't like it.

First you said that  you will not go on this watch, that CP is a shop with awful commercial rules, etc ...

Then, you say that the watch is fantastic, very flippable, etc.

Here, I copied the best extracts of your posts...It is worth reading them.

That is ... Tasteless.

You said:

" I always remember all LeftHanded Panerai watches are always more expensive to made and also the after market value are always 2 to 4 times more . Those who owned it ,its going to flip at least 3 to 5 times the present price now in 1 to 5 years time " 

You said:

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Looking at the market in Asia as I am following for the past few months .To my experience ( for the past 35 years of watch collection ) I guess the Pam 358 prices will Flipping every month Higher and Higher until it reach their last distribution of the 100pcs.

Then I guess it may be selling way above between 17k Euros to 40k Euros even if the market is very soft.

As this is Really a Damn Sexy Classic Deep Ocean Monster Diver Watch  with a touch of Difference from the rest of the Automatic Submersible I have seen so Far until today .

Even a woman with a skinny wrist looks so beautiful on it but definitely one must have  long fingers and must talk enough to carry it .

This is really one hell of Killer Watch in which I feel it will be a long time investment for anyone who owns this Beast .

Definitely for me I will not sell it even If someone offer me 50k Euros ( as I do not need sell it to make profit  since I am a retired with enough saving for my next 9 generation Ha!!!!!!!!!!!!Ha!!!!!!!!!!!!inherited a bit of Fortune and also some saving from my Great Great Grand Father .ha!!!!!!!!!ha!!!!!!!!!!) ".

BUT YOU SAID ALL THE CONTRARY just  a few days before:

" I have been offered too  and all my friends  in Hongkong,Singapore, Thailand ,Japan and all my Panerisiti gang too .

Better not to buy it as I feel its like a RUSH,RUSH kind of sales and there is nothing special about it as I am asking for them a photo to be release to me before I buy it.

And its going to be no END to this kind of Sales Gimmicks .

I have too many Panerais in my collection as I prefer to Collect all the Patek or A.P now .

Its kind of a Pressured  type of sales as you have to be there in Paris to pay and collect it man.

And now  I am in Singapore .

its takes about 12 hours  to reach there in Paris .

Its kind of very Stupid marketing just ask all the Customer all over world just to go there and pay and collect it as I used to buy from this store in Paris  in the early nineties and they always charge it to you on  whatever cards you have and also they will  sent it to your door step by EMS too in the early nineties.

Now the BOSS of the store is giving a lot of Excuses like this and that  (claiming the accountant cannot agree to this and that   .

 If any Panerai's collectors want the watch we need to go to Paris  Just to Pay in there store and Collect it,Stupid ideas .

I am still Puzzle why must we go there and Pay since they charge to our cardsand collect it another times.

Guess they NEED the CASH FLOW Man !!!!!!ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have been buying watches since in the 70's  from all over Europe and I have never had a problem with paying through cards or bank transfer in any of those shops in Europe .

Even my First Class Suite ticket from SQ cost more than the watch ."

Well, as you requested some comments, I have no other comments for the moment, but if you ask ...

Best,

Nicolas

This message has been edited by amanico on 2010-04-17 23:17:32

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Man with what it does not matter here as

 This website is more for sharing my opinion and passion .

People change their mind sometimes when they are upset with certain things but that does not mean he is contradicting .

So I guess you do not have to be so upset with what I have said in the earlier post  and start criticizing on this issues .

But is good to bring out and share our opinion here rather then banging on answer and question .

Its just how I feel and whats is happenning in the market trend now as I believe you are a true fan of Panerai too !!Right my Dear Friend .

I guess I do not  need to answered to you  neither  do I need to be angry with you as everyone have their own set of mind & thinking and its fine for me .

But its good to bring out this issues as maybe to each and his own  would have a different view of it .

Here I feel very happy that you have highlighted to me and I will be more careful on what to write before I post or else HMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!too many PPL will feeling weird about me as what you called it Man with CONTRADICITIOUS !!Ha!!!!!!!!!!!!ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Good publicity man Ha!!!!!!!!!!!!Ha!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank you so much.

 

Happy Days

Happy weekend

And enjoy reading and share more of our passion on watches and hMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!anything that is interesting as life is too short  to be anngry with anyone here .

Ciao

Bugatti Veyron

 

I only saw some critical taste, for the moment.

I went to school, and I believe I correctly learnt how to read, even in English.

From what I read, there is no miunderstanding from my part.

Now, if you misunderstand yourself, that is another problem.

Can you explain why you so badly criticized the watch and the dealer, and how you got not one, but two watches of the same in a so short distance, while you live so far from Paris?

Sorry, but all this looks very suspect to me.

Nicolas

 

You are sooo cute man !!!!!!!!!

Ha!!!!!!!!!!ha!!!!!!!!!!!!

let meet up in USA or in Europe then we chat and share my secret ya !!!!!!!!!

Or in Asia too .

 

Good days

Ciao

Bugatti Veyron

 

Lets meet for dinner or lunch and share more about Watches ,Cars,Motocycles,Jets ,Pens and Hats (Panama hats ).

On me all the way man Boooze and food at your choice !!!!!!!any nice cosy rest. at your choice man!!!!!!!!!

Rather then FAQ no ends man!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cheers

Bugatti Veyron

 

This message has been edited by PoyFR on 2010-04-19 04:12:20

pity......

I think that should apologize to Nicolas.....

this forum is meant to discuss and enjoy horology.....

I suggest you read the rules and respect them....
as all of us do.....

I must have missed all these....

cheers

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Seriously, you are URGING me to say things to you I don't normally want to say. Lay off the forum for awhile; apparently your taste in Panerai watches (that's if you have any) is quite the contrary of how you publicly behave here.

the more you have to spread it [nt]

This message has been edited by PoyFR on 2010-04-18 03:43:41

to get two of the same watch?     Can't be just taste no?

i read somewhere in here that one of the moderators bought 3 PAM127s...  If people weren't willing to pay inflated costs then flipping wouldn't be happening.  blame the consumers...

there are only two of us here and I doubt any one of us were that crazy.  (I certainly wasn't!)    So perhaps you could clarify for us or try to dig out that post?    Last but not least, the Purists Panerai forum wasn't even around back when PAM127 was out....

THAT IS NOT CONFORM TO OUR PURIST BEHAVIOUR.

Tasteful answer, Jester.

Best,

Nicolas

i guess the other guy was indeed "crazy"... 3 127s...  I wish i had 1 but $20k is not rational anymore...

I wanted the watch so badly when it was 1st released, I paid in full at 3 places to ensure a higher chance I would get one.  All 3 PAM127's arrived in a span of only 2 days.  Once I got the 1st one, I was going to cancel my other 2 orders.

At that time, the PAM127's were already selling for above retail since it was a brand new piece and many people were waiting for theirs.  In the spirit of helping out Panerai fans, I kept the best #'ed one of the 3, and then sold the remaining 2 at my COST to 2 others - my brother & a stranger in NYC whom I've never met before and met in person to hand the watch to.  I did not FLIP them for any profit and have stated this many times in prior posts here and on Paneristi when I was a moderator over there when this took place.

Cheers,
Anthony

 

 

This message has been edited by AnthonyTsai on 2010-04-18 10:10:55

I happened to me with the 26K, I ordered it in Munich and got a strange feeling, I ordered it again in Barcelona but never canceled the first order thinking that I would make somebody happy if i happen to get both.... but I never heard anything anymore from Munich... and they lost me for ever as a client!

Cheers.

Luc

I think I know who lost you.....



cheers

What is utterly wrong here is this late shilling ambiance in which the above poster is an active participant.  It is not his website nor it is his shop. 

 

I do not see any problem with anyone buying over his own need and doing whatever he chooses with all or the rest, BUT I see a serious problem when someone plants and forces an uncalled ambiance in a place he does not host.

 

Over time we know what most people are about, for sure you AT are far from suffering a negative reputation and your standings are commendable. IMO you ought not justify yourself to a bleu bite character who keeps challenging his hosts.

 

And I find distasteful some of the here late posts that keep screening commercial name of an identity that here brings or share none of his experience or knowledge or stories.  To me it is a bit like going and sitting in a restaurant intentionally leaving the tab to everyone else.

 

Whilst I dislike when anyone is not given his right to expression, I think this 358 business ought to be controlled.  A side the speculation, I find those type of approaches to generate and achieve nothing a part from jailing this forum in this last few days.

 

Oh, and like I said before, too highly raised indexes on the bezel show one DNA , here is what I mean >

(The picture was posted somewhere on the web by a person I do not know C.Chaswilbur)

This message has been edited by PoyFR on 2010-04-18 15:30:01

ever in this kind of situation again....

please let me know...
(I am certain that our list is big.... lol)

Your brother (and the other person) must have been very happy....



cheers

They all look brand new w/ no wear marks on the strap.

- AT

I wonder even they will ever come .... but hey I have my flipper status to defend

like I said earlier i think the 358 is a bit 'overhyped' IMO, it's a great watch for sure, but not the kind I would pay a premium for ....