Audemars Piguet

Thanks to fellow forum member Mostel, who was kind enough to sell me his Royal Oak Jumbo 15002, I am now the proud owner of two fantastic Jumbos.  I have owned the 15202 for a couple of years and it has been my favorite watch and has gotten a lot of wrist time.  While I still love the 15202, the older style Clous de Paris dial on the 15002 is amazing.  Sorry about my incredibly bad photographic skills.  Now, should I begin to chase the vintage 5402???

You have a big love affair with the RO!



Adding a ,jumbo to your pair of Jumbos?

Why not!

You will have a superb trio of a mythic watch.

Congratulations on these 2 beauties.

Best,

Nicolas

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It will sublimely depend on the mood of the day!



Best,

Nicolas

Always good to add to your AP collection.

JerryW

That's a delightful duo!  I would consider the 15002 to be one of the APs I most enjoy and desire to add to my collection.  Enjoy the new watch!

Cheers,
Daos

Gorgeous duo... I think you should certainly start the hunt for a 5402! The Logo at 6pm will make a great trio of iconic Royal Oaks...

I keep seeing pictures of the 15002s and it's starting to make me want to trade my blue 15300 for a 'base' RO...

Wear them well,

Zack

You have done what I have considered doing myself -- pairing a 15202 with a 15002.  Both are magnificent.  I can see why the 15202 has been your favorite.  The 15002 has likewise become mine.  There is nothing quite like these Royal Oaks. 

Mine wishes you and yours well:

As for adding the 5402 to "complete" your set -- as Nicolas asked: Why not?  The hard part is over: you have already landed the 15002, which I daresay is a more difficult feat than finding a 5402.  Obviously, there are lots of issues to consider when hunting a 5402, but finding one should be easier than finding the 15002, which is a rare bird indeed. And you sourced a good one from Mostel.

So, I noticed that the font of the date wheel of your 15002 looks just a bit different than mine -- at least from the photographs there appears to be a slight difference to me.  This is an interesting detail, a little surprising but not too surprising as the D-series 15002 (along with the Jubilee Royal Oak, produced at about the same time) was a transitional model between the 5402 and the 15202.  Such a simple, thin time-only watch, and I continue to discover new things about this mysterious watch.

I would be interested to hear what you think of difference of having one solid and the other with the display caseback.  It is nice to be able to see the beautiful movment and the lovely rotor on teh 15202, but I must admit I really like the added mystery of the solid caseback.  That same beautiful movement working tirelessly in complete darkness, moment after moment, year after year, not even a seconds had to let you know immediately that the watch is working.  Now, lucky you, with both models, will be able to live with and compare the two.

Well, congratulations on getting one of these wonderful Jumbos.  I hope that for you, as for me, this will be a watch for a lifetime.

Best,

respo

Thanks to all for the kind words.  In response to Respo - I really appreciate the beauty of the 15202, specifically the ability to admire the infamous Cal 2121.  However, the thinner profile and the amazing Clous de Paris dial make the 15002 the winner in my opinion.  My only problem is that the 15002 is in such pristine condition that I am hesitant to wear it regularly.  The 15202 is in excellent condition, but has typical signs of wear, making it an easy choice for regular use.

Regarding pursuit of a 5402 - my rudimentary understanding of the relationship between series, case number, dial type and bracelet type seems to disqualify most of the versions that I have seen on-line.  This may indicate my ignorance regarding this model, which further makes me very, very cautious.  Anyone that cares to provide advice on how to condcut an apporpriate search for and validation of a 5402 is greatly appreciated.

...on hunting the 5402.   There have been some threads here in the past related to such searches for this iconic watch, so perhaps do a search here and on the sister Network54 site. 

I don't blame you for being cautious about hunting a 5402. I have held off myself because it is a minefield and it will be challening to find a near perfect and all-original example accompanied by full provenance.  But most collectors are transfixed by the logo above the 6 o'clock.  For now, enjoy the stealthy nature of the 15002. ;-)

And you and I both need to get over the idea of keeping our 15002s in mint condition. That is one of the reasons I thought about getting a 15202 or even a 15300.  Each of these watches is meant to be worn, however, right?  I am wearing mine today, in fact. 

Enjoy!

respo

on a beautiful pair of Jumbo's.

Best,

Goh

Hallo to You members,

I sometimes found some articels by google about AP RO in this forum. I am from Germany and today I registered me here. I have to work a

little bit on my english. But first I want to show you my pair of Royal Oak Jumbos. And belive me: There is nothing better (in my opinion) than

the caracter and charme that the 5402 with AP-Logo by the six.

Gruß aus Deutschland

Wow - you are a lucky man to have 2 original Jumbos that appear to be in wonderful condition!  Congratulations.

Beautiful duo of early RO's! Just curious, what are their serial numbers if you don't mind me asking? Am interested to find the earliest A-series on the forum. 

Congrats again!

ok - some words to my two exemplares. Both A-Serie. History is a little bit different:

The one on the left site: Number between 1500 and 1600. Revision by AP ca. 2005 (I don´t know exactly at the moment). The hands and the crown  (now with AP-Logo) had been changed by AP. The clasp is signed with AP.

The one on the right site: Number between 600 and 700. Original smaller hands and crown without AP-Logo. Clasp signed with "Audemars Piguet" and clasp inside Guy freres GF. This one had a revision this year (private by an old clockmaker).

AP Revision of course is mutch better - also more expensive - but date changes at exact 12.00 ... . The other one a few minutes bevor and the material from the indices is a little bit tarnished. Luminous material a little bit brashly - but hands original small. They got no one left by AP.

Both authentic and runnig without problems.

An interesting detail is that the later one has "folded endlinks". I had contact to other RO-owners and we think that AP tried something in a special periode to change on the bracelet. I had a look at photos in the internet and find some exemplares. Look at the 2 photos from my watch. There you can see wat I meen and on the second photo that the item "folded" perhabs is a little bit wrong.

 

Have a nice day

only5402

in some posts here about AP RO I found that G F ist Guy Freres and I absorbed that. A long time I wondered, that I can´t find what it means.

So now I have to correcte that instead of publishing that mistake furthermore.

It is: Gay Freres! (today I found that in internet)

They created exquisite handmade chains and later also bracelets for watches (also Rolex).

 

Gruß

Stephan

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2 jumbos?

Wow.

That must be love, but somewhat, I fully understand you.

Here's mine:

Welcome here, by the way!

Nicolas.

1. I know, why you understand me

2. You´re english i´snt catastrophic - it´s from a poet  (mine is sometimes from "translating machine")       because:    

           I found you´re great post  "A Quick View on the Vintage Royal Oak jumbo"    !!!

 

and by the way: Yesterday there was a watch/collectors market in cologne

and I found my third AP RO. It is C-Serie approximately 100 numbers later than yours

Stephan

Enjoy it, my friend. Great to meet you.

pictures from my new third 5402. Tis one is C-Serie and has a little bit different date disc (different typ of numbers) and another clasp (my both A-series - there is one with Audemars Piguet on it - the G F one- and the other with AP, but on a elevationon the clasp).

Both (disc and clasp on my C-Serie) I knew from D-Serie and later modells of RO. But perhabs anybody here knows, if this type of date disc and this version of clasp could be also original on late C-Serie.

I saw this Type of date disc on another C-Serie. But perhabs they have been changed later by revision or repair.

Also I looked in the internet and magazins for the date disc. It is interesting, that AP often changed the versions (only with little differences) also

on Ref 15202.

 

Regards

 

Stephan

Regards
Hiob

to embroider (Hallo Hiob / embroider=  "sticken" - sagt die Übersetzungsmachine) a new flag and by the way:

How much will the flag cost, if you go to produce it? And it would be better to have one side with 40.th

and one with 50.th - let´s hope we will get so old.

Really nice your collection!

Stephan