Patek Philippe

CH29-535PS in reference 7071

...being just announced moments ago at a big gala event in Paris.

Here are some specs.
Height - 5.35mm
Diameter - 29.6mm
Power reserve- 65hrs (58 hrs when chrono is engaged)
I am sure more info and pictures will follow later tonight or tomorrow once the press release is out.

Patek Philippe decided to use this new completely [I]in-house made caliber[/I] for the
first time in company history - in a ladies watch (model 7071)



While the introduction of this revolutionary caliber in a ladies watch is not something that a majority of
forum hopping WIS enthusiasts expected - it is still a MAJOR point in the history of Patek Philippe.
With gradual elimination of Nouvelle Lemania ebauche based calibers (references 5020, 5070, 5970, 5004 etc),
and the introduction of a first in house automatic chrono in 2006 (CH 28-520 IRM QA 24H) in 5960P.....this was
something that many PP collectors were awaiting for a long time.

Now I am sure many more questions will pop-up.

Are we going to see a first mens model with this new caliber in Basel 2010 or will it be later ?

I am not expecting a huge discussion regarding this actual ladies watch, but would love to hear your thoughts
about this new caliber. While I am still waiting for more details coming later from a press release, the above
picture of this new caliber (albeit small) impresses me a lot.

What are your thoughts ?

Congrats Patek - Welcome to the party! 

Movement looks very complicated and interesting.  Looking forward to learn more. 

Best,

asg

The movement does look beautiful for sure. This launch, however, leaves me disappointed. Why? Because I can't wear this watch. I can visualise the men's version, and that has me salivating, but having worked myself into expecting a men's chrono today, I now find myself having to wait another 5 months or so to see what the men's version looks like. Yes, disappointed.

Having said that, this ladies chrono is beautifully crafted. The movement is exquisite and the design of the watch works very well indeed.

Roll on March.

... but the hands of the 5960 is the 1st thing that i've  noticed. Now we still gotta see the man's version. What a strange strategy to unveil 1st the ladies version, looks like its aimed at teasing us Let's wait and see

K
This message has been edited by kkhazen on 2009-11-05 12:06:48

1. Kinda surprised that they stuck with the traditional, linear clutch although it appears that the intermediate wheel completly disconnects when the chrono is stopped, which is nice, reduce load on the movement when the chrono is not engaged
2. really surprised by that enormous hat on the column wheel. I'm surprised they covered it at all, and that is very clunky looking, almost unfinished
3. I like the rest of the look of the chrono arms and such, especially the swoop of that one on the upper-right
4. what's the gold-colored bit around 4 o'click, some sort of locking lever?

I'll say nothing about the watches
A

Aesthetically not the most beautiful movement in my opinion.
From Patek I would expect something at the level of the datograph movement.
I hope that the men's version will look better.

it is a nice movement no question about that but I prefer chono movements like this one.

Maybe I'm an exception but I just don't like all those bleu screws and zillion gold chatons. I really do prefer the patek movements (Minerva has a we superb chrono's too) I guees it's all personal opinion

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you don't  walk alone .LOL

First, I hope it has been debugged before release unlike the previous one. Second, I think those watches are, er, pretty ugly.

and in a larger case.  I LOVE IT

It's imo a very nice vintage looking watch

Besides, who says the men's watch will look the same ? This is just 1 watch, several will follow and it won't be the same case. Think about a 5070/5970/5004. They will definitely use this caliber for more complicated watches (perpetual and split second) . Wait untill Basel 2010 and we might get something like a 6070 and 6970

Yuk...horrid...busy dial, diamonds, weird chrono pushers...
only seen the pics of course....but not a fan so far. Looks like a $199 watch from China...
Tim

I think you should reconsider your opinion Tim ;-)

Like said, imagine this watch without the diamonds and make it 5 mm bigger

It's a style we saw in the 1920's - 1930's this is a similar looking piece and I like this

 

 

We don't know what case they will use for a men's watch, it could be completely different (could be a more common round shape)

Let's hope the men's version is more like this!!!!

Tim

There are ugly watches from everywhere in the world.  Cheers!

More importantly my wife agrees -  her girlfriend agrees.  The bigger problem is that women do not want to wind their watches manually. Patek's designers should have been given fake nails and told to try winding their masterpiece..  Women are more practical than men and the type of ladies who would use the utility of a chronograph (nurses, triathletes, teachers) would be more inclined to use a digital diplay quartz watch count seconds than the hands of a complication like this. This is a very thin market Patek is appealing to.  I expect the watch to be a flop.

Lovely movement, as expected from Patek... but a masculine looking chronograph dial, with a square case, and diamonds? Urrgh....

Hopefully the men's version is much better. Otherwise this release will become the most overhyped one in the PP forum in a long while.

we are having this discussion......?  Trying to imagine what this will look like without the diamonds.........   Assuming/hoping there will be some impressive men's models to follow........

What were they thinking?  They will have no trouble selling the last of any Lemanias, so I don't think a men's watch would have stepped on any toes.

Even if that is the most incredible chrono movement created (does not look overly impressive to my amateur eye), it would be very hard to get excited by this without a more complete package.

A move as bold as showcasing perhaps the most important Patek movement in memory first in a rather strange looking ladies timepiece has to be very calculated, but I haven't heard from anyone who understands the calculations.  Is the boldness meant to hide something else or to whet our appetite?

This is the replacement for the Lemania?  I can't get my arms around this watch and the 5070 or 5970 in the same breath.  This is supposed to go head to head with the Datograph?  Even ignoring the front of the watch (which is hard to do) I don't see it yet.

Please tell me what I am missing.

Patek loves building anticipation. Give it to the ladies - make the men want it more.

Or -

Patek loves screwing with "us".

"Normal" people dont think like us. We arent the only people who buy watches. I'm sure some fashion mag will print that this is the hottest watch and 150 will sell in a day. How many more do they really need to make to have a good ROI on the investment??

Or -

They really do beat to their own drum. They dont give an S what anyone thinks. Hell, they kicked the geneva seal in the tush, snubbed their nose at Swatch and are doing it their own way. To me, they gained some respect from me today. Wouldn't have been my choice or recommendation to launch with this watch, but then again, I am in healthcare.

Or -

they jumped the shark.

Time will tell.

She didn't like all the diamonds and thought that it would suit her better without them...........At which point I sighed with relief!!

With regards to the movement, it appears to my untrained eye, somewhat tightly packed in. Unlike the Lemania & Datograph movements.

I wander how it would look in a larger cased watch?

I would hope that with the mens version, they would make the sub dials look more traditional, I do not like the oval type apperance. 

lets face it, as men are we not going to find the ladies version "fussy". My wife also said she wasnt a fan of the diamonds.

Aren't diamonds like pets rocks really? Except that pet rocks used to go for a buck; much better buy imho.

Interesting reference number.

Wishing you success!

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Richard.

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I am not super-knowledgeable about the evolution of movements but from an aesthetic point of view, i like this new watch. i especially like that the diamonds are INSIDE the class. i am always concerned that if they are subject ot nature's bumps/taps one may become dislodged. The chrono dials remind me of an AP Millenary. I will need to see it in person. At 30mm it may be hard to read those chrono dials.

I know as WIS, we are busy looking at the movement but what about the placement of the subdials relative to the center of the watch.  They are placed slightly lower than the center, not quite Datograph low but noticeable.  What does this mean for the eventual men's version?  Any speculations, insight ...
George

My wife does not like it... yet!

As usual Patek is pushing the envelope. I wonder how this watch looks in the flesh and as such I will reserve judgement until then.

Regards

Rene

firm message underlying the notion that things will be shaken up now that the younger Stern is the man in charge. I think its a masterpiece move, creating even MORE buzz for the brand. Looking forward to Basel 2010!

..likes it better than her friends 24 and I bet its a work of art in the flesh as I always find pictures of PP do not do them justice.